Ashford University
Established: 1918
Accreditation: North Central Association Colleges and Schools
For-Profit: No
Country: USA
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Excellent School
November 1, 2009
Ashford University's MBA program has provided me with an excellent education and experience. I would highly recommend it to any professional who is looking pursue an MBA or any advance degree that they offer. All of my professors are PhD’s who have excellent educational backgrounds.
Bachelors of Social Science/Education
October 26, 2009
I enrolled here around this time last year and went for a while, but after getting a job at University of Phoenix, I decided that a free education is better than paying for one. Well I hated my job at U of P and resigned. Now I am going to ...
10 th class
October 26, 2009
This was my problem. I asked Mr. Robison, my professor at the time, if he could elaborate on the assignment due dates. His response was, "not everything in life is easy". I thought to myself maybe this teacher is a joker or something. I emailed him again with the same ...
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Comments:
Zabrina February 23, 2007 at 6:08 a.m.
I am so impressed with the attention I am receiving from my enrollment counselor and academic advisor! I've never felt so secure about going back to school. This is a great place.
-Z.
Stephen February 23, 2007 at 6:10 a.m.
Anyone who want's to become a teacher should really look into this school's BA/teaching certification program. This is so awesome and I am able to use Financial Aid when I was told by other schools that I do not qualify. I'm going to be a teacher in 2 years!!
Rachel March 20, 2007 at 1:31 p.m.
I am thinking about enrolling in their on line BA/ teacher certification program. Does anyone have any comments about that program?
Sheila McIntire May 5, 2007 at 11:17 p.m.
Hi All!
I did some research on AU and I was pretty impressed by the advisors and the programs they offer. I learned too that they just raised the number of credits they can accept in transfer to 99. That is a lot more than most schools. They do have a partnership with Rio Salado College to help those take some of their Education courses with AU and transfer them into Rio's Education program after completing the BA, which is sort of like double dipping.
My recommendation is that you call them and take the time to ask all of your questions until you are satisfied with the answers. Then, get started! Best of success!
Sheila
Pamela May 10, 2007 at 11:27 p.m.
Hi Everyone,
I am a Enrollment Advisor with Ashford University and I truly do love my job. I do pre-evaluations and help students through the admissions process. I am a great source of information about financial aid, grants, military benefits, and transfer credits. We award more credits than any other legitimate university. Which can save you years of classes and thousands in tuition! I would be happy to assist anyone interested in finding a great school. Please feel free to email me with any questions, I am happy to help :)
Jason T. June 8, 2007 at 7:53 p.m.
Thank you all for your kind comments. I am an Enrollment Advisor here and am proud of the help I provide. Choosing the correct university is a huge decision. What I find rewarding is the fact that we don't "sell" our school, we are truly looking for motivated individuals who have goals. If I can be of assistance answering your pre-application questions please feel free to call me 877.241.9893 ext. 7157. or email jason.thomas@ashford.edu.
Sheila Gamble-Holt June 20, 2007 at 11:18 p.m.
Unfortunately my reviews for Ashford University aren't to good. I would encourage any and all students to do their research before settling or committing to any program whether it be for an MBA, PhD, MA, BA etc. I can attest to the breakdown in communication when it comes to the Enrollment Advisors. Be sure to ask all the "right" questions regarding application fees, enrollment fees, any additional charges when it comes to their Online Degree Programs. They promise you in the beginning that the Application Fee is waived yet still require that you enter a credit card while applying for Graduate Studies online. After 1 1/2 months after deciding not to attend Ashford University, I received a $55 charge for my application. How ironic!! Overall, I think this University offers good programs in certain areas but as stated above, be sure to do your homework. They allow or advertise for "99 Transfer Credits" but this doesn’t apply to Graduate Courses, so its important to make sure if you are a Transfer Student to way all the pros and cons.
Randy Swzartzstii June 21, 2007 at 12:21 a.m.
My experience with Ashford University was terrible. I think the Enrollment Advisors do an okay job, but providing you with specifics and details on the many programs they offer, they seem lacking in knowledge.Yes they call you and email you 500 times a week but they need to be more prepared to answer more in-depth questions. My friend graduated from Ashford University but she will be enrolling in another University's Graduate Program.
Richard Rignall June 27, 2007 at 7:55 p.m.
I was enrolled in the MAOM program until last night. I decided that there was no benefit to the program. Not only is their required Bus 600 course a pathetic introduction to grad school but, the particular instructor that I drew had three "the dog ate my homework" excuses for not participating in discussions and not having grading done in the 1st four weeks. The only means of instructor contact was supposed to be his personal aol.com address. I don't know whether he ever checked it because he didn't respond to any of four emails I sent. The instructor managed to somehow delete and lose my 1st research paper from Black Board. I sent off my complaints to their instructor complaint department--that should be a clue that mine is not the 1st-- to my advisor and to the dean of the school. I am in the process of completing a grad program in leadership at Duquesne and that is a great school-I have decided on Northcentral for my post graduate work and that too seems to be a great school. Ashford?--- you'd be further ahead to purchase your degree from a diploma mill on Friday and receive it in the mail on Monday.
Alma July 20, 2007 at 3:49 p.m.
Ashford is a joke. I should have known better when the enrollment advisor screwed EVERYTHING up from day one. He listed me with the wrong major. He emailed me information for my first class, which turned out to NOT be the class that he enrolled me for. In turn, I purchased the books for thr wrong class. 3 weeks later, I finally got the textbooks (that part, as far as I know, was the bookstore's fault not the school), only to then find out that I had the wrong books. They sent me the correct books overnighted and THEY paid for it, which was wonderful. They gave me a student advisor who proved to be the ONLY person that knew what the heck she was doing, so she is the reason I gave them another chance. Their textbooks are specific editions to their school and after 2 classes, I realized that neither textbook was organized well, did nothing in terms of explaining ANYTHING, and was written like someone with ADHD and dyslexia. The second instructor I had made no attempts at interacting with most of the students, and my emails were left completely ignored. When I had finally had enough and asked to be withdrawn, the financial aid person says to me, in her exact words mind you, "Well since you are withdrawing so soon you know you'll have to pay us some money for it right?" EXCUSE ME?! I was never told this (and who would have told me besides the enrollment advisor who admittedly did not know what he was doing)? I am not paying them a penny, and I flat out told them that after EVERYTHING with them, how dare they expect a penny more from me. I mentioned this to my student advisor and she said that she would look into it and take care of that for me. These people are incredibly clueless and not at all organized and I would absolutely advise people AGAINST Ashford University online.
michael July 21, 2007 at 5:31 a.m.
im talkin with ashford now. They are very convincing on the phone that they have the best online school. I would save gas and time commuting by using ashford. They also said my FAFSA will pay for it. I dont know because now they are pushing a STAFFORD loan on me. That doesnt sound like what they origionaly said. Anyways the units are $302 a unit. That is way too expensive. community colleges only charge $14 a unit and Im sure cal state universities arent too much more! Im feeling kinda iffy about this already.
Violet July 23, 2007 at 1:58 a.m.
I am not going to use my real name, because it seems like there are ashford employees reading these posts and I am currently, seriously looking into going to this online school. I am soooo nervouse because everything sounds so good, like the amount of credits they transfer and the price compared to other online schools is really good. The stuff about the instructors not answering e-mails doesn't sound very good. I might wait a while before I make my decision. Financial aid is good until sometime in 2008 so I am not going to rush it. I am so glad I found this comments page.
Bill July 23, 2007 at 1:58 a.m.
You get out of college what you put into it whether on site or off site and if you are self motivated a strong online program like Ashford can benefit you but if you need to have your hand held through life online is probably not for you. I just chuckle at some of the negative posts on here which sound more like a disgruntled tirade than a well thought out disagreement. I say for those perspective students if you do your due diligence and work hard Ashford will work just fine for you. Best of luck in your college career no matter what you do.
Sally August 4, 2007 at 2:10 a.m.
I just enrolled in Ashford Univeristy. I'm anxious to go to school! Everything sounds "so good," and I think their programs are good! After reading these comments, now I'm "ify". I'm wondering if what I did was right or stupid? I don't like loans, but they set me up for a stafford loan. I'm just going to set aside what I don't use and then pay it back. I'm trying to be optimisitic about all of this, and hoping they don't mess anything up. Hopefully, everything turns out great!
Jeff August 5, 2007 at 1:24 a.m.
Ashford University is not cheap! units are $240 - $320 each? thats about 600 to $1000 a class. Community colleges are offering classes at $20 a unit. Ashford is a FOR PROFIT organization.
Patrick August 6, 2007 at 7:21 p.m.
Aloha. Ashford University has so far been like a new beginning for me. My advisor has been very helpful to me. I do think he sees my concern though. Like the saying goes, "if it seems to good to be true, it probably is." But I do start tomorrow and I'll give it a chance. If all is well and all my credits transfer, I should have a bachelors in organizational management in one year. The company I work for just came out with a new educational financial aid. Everything will be paid for if I make "A's." So the exitement starts tomorrow.
Renee August 7, 2007 at 12:40 a.m.
Would you recommend Ashford over University of Phoenix, Strayer or AIU? Why?
Violet August 10, 2007 at 1:43 a.m.
Ashford does sound very expensive. When I talk to the financial aid dept about it they make it sound like I don't have to worry about it because everthing is paid for by financial aid, but I was hoping that I could have some of the loan for some of my needs here at home like, upgrading my computer and buying some supplies. Using the money for clothes, computers, books, even bills to keep your internet and phone are perfectly legal. At a traditional college you can have the loan money sent to you directly and then use it for what you need. They tell me that with online school I must sign over ALL of the money that is awarded to me by fafsa and whatever is left over after their fees will get sent to me. I will probably be lucky to get 5 bucks for a pad and a pencil. I was also told that they would give me a voucher for books. Because I complained that I would have a problem paying for their outrageously expensive books. Believe me, I have gone to a traditional college, a for-profit technical school and now I am applying for my bachelor's w/ Ashford and I think they take advantage of people and squeeze them dry of every cent they can get. Honestly, its pretty disgusting how students are trying to make an honest effort and schools just want to rip you off. Sorry, for sounding so bitter, but it's how I feel at this point after so much education and such little return. I really hope that in a year I am raving at how wonderful Ashford was and how I was wrong about this whole comment, but I guess we all have to take the risk and hope that in the end it's all worth it.
confused and upset August 11, 2007 at 1:33 a.m.
Hi,
I had enrolled into Ashford University back in March of 07.
My advisor set me up for everything..I wanted to make sure this class would go to my degree, so I asked him if it would.. and he specifically explained to me:
Thanks for the email. After this class, you will be taking the class that applies to your degree. Remember that this is the FIRST course to get you "acclimated into online environment". We want to make sure you are academically proficient.
So I was under the impression that this course was only to see if you would be prepared for online courses with Ashford University..
After 2 days of realizing that I this was not for me, & would not work with my 2 jobs that I was working at the time.. I decided to notify my advisor and let him know that I no longer wanted to attend the class.. We left the conversation under the assumtion that I was no longer going to further my education with Ashford.
I attended a University in Texas & had taken an online course.. our teachers always advised us to double check & make sure if the class was dropped! So the third week I logged back on to the class to see if I was dropped..\
I received a "phone call" from Ashford a couple days ago & they explained to me that "I was enrolled in a REAL class & that I needed to pay Ashford $900 dollars!!" If I didnt, he would report it to the Collection Agency on 8/14/07!! I couldn't hardly believe what I was hearing! So I explained to him what had happened, and he said it doesn't matter.. i still had to pay! So I asked to speak with a manager above him, and he never would transfer me! He was super rude to me!
oooo it gets better!
So I contacted the School and explained what had happened, and they transfered me to a manager.. I spoke with her, explained to her what the problem was.. and she turned around and emailed me explaining to me that yes, I do have to pay the school 900 dollars!
Today I call the school again to get the dean of Ashford University.. and the Receptionist explained to me that she didn't know who the Dean was or the office number or the address for the school so I could write a letter lol..!! Then to TOP IT.. she told me not to tell her boss.. WOOW!How unprofessional is THIS!? I would NEVER refer anyone to this unproffesional school!
confused and upset August 11, 2007 at 1:34 a.m.
also I contacted my advisor explaining to him what was going on and he never has responded back..
Neuro August 12, 2007 at 4:59 a.m.
I am not sure about Ashford, but I can say that most community colleges in IL run about $200 a class, and state schools charge about $1500 a class. Whoever was saying $20 a unit, which I take is a credit hour, is off.
hebrews111 August 15, 2007 at 12:30 a.m.
Where are the comments from students who are still studying and ones about to graduate?
David August 16, 2007 at 2:59 a.m.
I am currently enrolled and have had very few negative experiences with Ashford. I have been most impressed to date. In comparison, I have also experienced other community and online programs that have had their negatives as well. My advise to someone who is signing up for any program is to read the fine print and ask questions. It is human nature to blame others for our own mistakes. In dealing with people, we are always going to be dissapointed with situational outcomes that are not in our favor. It is how one deals with these dissapointments that defines a person.
Comment September 10, 2007 at 2:08 a.m.
Ashford University is owned by Bridgepoint Education, Inc which is a for-profit company. "Bridgepoint Education is unique in the for-profit education industry ..."
http://www.bridgepointeducation.com/abou...
At the top of this page - "For-Profit: No" ?????
Juice September 19, 2007 at 1:57 a.m.
I don't understand how someone could have a bad experience? The process of enrollment, ordering books and taking classes online is quite simple. If you are computer literate, motivated and disciplined with your time you should have no problems. I am currently a student at Ashford with one more class to graduate with a B.A. in Organizational Management. My experience with Asford has been excellent. I was skeptical at first, but I did plenty of research and decided Ashford fit my needs. I originally transferred 75 credits(the maximim allowed at the time)from a traditional campus university I had attended. Ashford eventually raised the maximum number of transferrable credits to 99 which I took adavantage of, and I will graduate sooner than expected. I plan on continuing my education with Ashford, enrolling in their M.A.O.M. program. I highly recommend Ashford University.
ASHFORD ORGANIZED CRIME October 1, 2007 at 6:03 p.m.
ASHFORD ORGANIZED CRIME?
To Whom It May Concern:
This letter is in addition to the complaint against Ashford University, in regards to college loan that they are refusing to refund.
The reasoning behind my assumption that Ashford University is part of a conglomerate that is money laundering is that I believe that Ashford University is either creating identities of instructors on-line, or buying the right to use the names of individuals with qualifications and then creating web sites to confirm and legitimize the information. Many of these web sites appear to dead end. There appears to be no governing law that requires identities to be confirmed or any system that would allow for that. Congress should enact legislation that would confirm identities for all on-line instructors. It is much like the mortgage crisis that is gripping the country. People that are not qualified for mortgages are not required to provide income verification. Unqualified borrowers are defaulting at an exponential rate. In contrast, unqualified and or phony instructors are instructing the classes in a marginal way and may have many different identities. This may include support personnel, such as financial aid counselors, as well.
I would also like to state that an on-line college would be a great place to engage in money laundering, as it would provide a thorough way of inflating enrollment by thousands or tens of thousands of persons and funnel that income through the organization. Ashford University can make up any number that they would like for enrollment. What a great cover for organized crime! I would like to add that it is a well known fact that organized Crime buys companies that are highly labor intensive, such as Ashford University, in order to engage in money laundering. It is a claasic example! This could be a huge scheme, right there in Middle America. There is a smoking gun here and with some research it should be easy to uncover. It does sound like a great conspiracy theory, doesn’t it? It could even be that the financial aid department and/or related departments are actually double-crossing the organization. There is something going on here and it includes corruption and dishonesty. There was a lot of controversy surrounding the million dollar tax abatement for Ashford University in 2005 and I would like you to read the following letter from the community newspaper in Clinton, Iowa. It makes a lot of sense.
Will October 4, 2007 at 11:08 p.m.
"ASHFORD ORGANIZED CRIME?" Get real!!
Me October 10, 2007 at 2 a.m.
I thoroughly checked out Ashford's accreditation & it is legitimate, so I seriously doubt that a lot of your crack pot theories are on target. Yes...a lot of colleges online are made up just for scams & profit...but this one is actually a real physical school with legitimate accreditaion...so I really see no merit in your argument & I think you need some serious meds for your paranoia &/or psychosis!
ShawnInSanFrancisco October 15, 2007 at 9:11 a.m.
I have had a fantastic experience with Ashford University since before I began classes in May 2007. Marcus Hillman was my Enrollment Advisor. I was his first student to enroll, and he was great with me on the phone, answered all of my questions, followed up with me in a timely manner, called periodically to ask me if I had any questions, and even informed me of my new Enrollment Advisor once he was promoted. Erik Piepenbrink is my academic advisor and has also been very helpful and timely in response to my questions. Leo Dulay, my Financial Aid Advisor has been very supportive throughout the entire financial aid process. The instructors have been great and one even made himself available on a Sunday to support me with some questions I had.
The online format is simple to use and I am able to use it at any hour of the day. Most of the time I am up late at night, so this is when I do my assignments.
I am getting a Bachelor of Arts in Social Sciences degree with a concentration in Education to become a teacher. There are very few online universities who offer a bachelor degree in education.
Organized crime? Hardly. Expensive? Try pricing University of Phoenix or Western Governor's University and you will find Ashford is less expensive.
Additionally, the credits I received from training in massage therapy transferred as elective credits, which cuts half a year off of my graduation time and tuition.
I am sorry for the people who have had bad experiences, but I feel that it takes two to tango in any relationship. For example, I took a three week leave of absence for my grandmother's funeral. I was going to Dallas and knew I wouldn't be doing any assignments. I e-mailed my enrollment advisor and my academic advisor to explain the situation. I also called to make sure that I had been withdrawn from my current class so that I would not be charged for it. To make sure, I specifically asked, "So I am withdrawn from this class and I will not be charged, correct?" There was no confusion about it, and I was perfectly clear what was happening.
I know I am 100% responsible for my own life and my own education and making it "someone else's job" and blaming other people is not productive to my becoming a college education person. It is my job to ask questions until I am sure about the answer and because I am willing to take that action, my experience has been brilliant!
If you need someone to hold your hand throughout the process (although the support team has done this with me without my request), I suggest you reconsider attending an online university. It takes a special kind of student to perform well without the interaction you would have in a formal classroom setting, and online education is not for everyone.
CANDACE October 18, 2007 at 7:26 p.m.
I LUVVVVV THIS SCHOOL FOREVER AND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aaron October 20, 2007 at 4:17 p.m.
There are many words flying about here-- as you will find in every comment venue, but all readers need to understand that there are a great many factors that play in any business transaction situation or whenever two or more parties interact with one another.
Ashford is a business, just as all other schools are-- regardless of whether the institution is private, public, for-profit or not-for-profit. Every business needs to make money to stay in business. No school is 100% free. Nothing in life is 100% free, for that matter. To think that anything should be is rather silly. The facilities, materials that help facilitate teaching/ learning, faculty and staff, etc. all cost money to build, train and maintain. These things do not come free. In order to create and maintain an academic institution for students to learn in, all necessary elements must be in-- and remain-- in place. This costs money-- regardless of how it is obtained, you will pay for it if you expect the institution to give you something (such as a degree).
There are distinct differences between Community Colleges and four-year schools. Community Colleges are two-year degree- (Associates degrees only) awarding institutions, while four-year schools award AA, AS, BA, BS, MA, MS, etc. degrees. The type of education offered at by a Community College is very different that than available through a four-year academic institution. Community College education is, essentially, "prep" work-- and an extension of the education received at the secondary education level. To attempt to compare the two types of schools is akin to comparing dogs and leaves.
With respect to the Advisor you speak with on the phone, representing Ashford University, University of Phoenix, Western Governors, DeVry, etc., s/he may or may not be well trained. Unfortunately, it is hit-or-miss with regard to whether you are greeted by a person who possesses a comprehensive understanding of the procedures, programs and protocol of the institution s/he represents. If you are not satisfied with the service you are receiving, simply request a different Advisor.
Schools like Ashford University would not hold the Education Accreditation they do if they operated their businesses in any illegal or dishonest fashion. This is simple truth.
Aaron October 20, 2007 at 4:19 p.m.
comment continued...
Whenever you enter a contract; make a purchase of any kind; you should always make certain that you understand the terms and conditions of the agreement. In trouble situations such as the one wherein a disenrolled student is charged for the time s/he spent as an enrolled student before deciding to withdraw, the fact is that terms of the enrollment agreement explicitly explain these charges and why the student is charged. You will pay for what you use. It is your responsibility, as a consumer, to take the time to read your contract and ask as many questions as necessary so that you are clear about what to expect and what is expected of you.
Know that people who complain "loudly" are, generally, people who are the parties responsible for the discrepancies or misfortunes they complain about. If you are interested in learning or buying something, do the necessary research on the product(s) you are considering purchasing and, as importantly, the merchants for and manufacturers of those products. Read customer/ client reviews carefully and do not let the overly-excited energy of those who rant and rave inaccurately colour your growing opinion of said product(s). Conduct your research wisely and think of yourself first, in every regard; it is YOUR decision, your investment and your future. True, but also understand that an academic institution is making an investment in you as well. It costs a school upward of $2800 (average) to enroll a single student and the school needs to make sure that they will be able to make a solid return on this investment-- if for nothing else that the good of those students who are committed to completing their education.
Go Ashford! November 12, 2007 at 8:55 a.m.
Hello, I'm a student at AU and so far it's been a great choice. I am in enrolled to complete my BAHCA and I am excited to know that Ashford is on my side. Kimberly Wolf is my student advisor and she's great. I did my research and came to the conclusion that Ashford had the most value. They offer a high quality experience to those who are purpose driven. If you are chasing your passion and/or motivated, You and Ashford will work well together. If you do your research, you'll draw the same conclusion. Thanks Ashford and you too Kimberly Wolf, for putting up with us!
Trish November 12, 2007 at 9:18 a.m.
I really can't see why or how anyone could have a bad experience at Ashford. They really have done wonders in helping me achieve my goals. I enjoy my classes and have had the opportunity to meet some really wonderful people. Ashford University will provide a great learning atmosphere if your willing to learn. If your not serious, don't bother. Anyone who isn't ready to succeed, will ultimately fail at everything they do.
Sting November 18, 2007 at 7:52 p.m.
Lets be honest about whats going on here. No matter how many great comments you leave, we will concentrate on the bad. There is a reason for this! You can get great experiences with any institution, but its how badly they treat the students is what counts. Thank you for all who left a bad comment. NO TO ASHFORD!! i dont have time for games.
dave November 21, 2007 at 12:14 a.m.
I guess there are no comments from people who are currently taking classes or about to graduate from ashford because they are happy. It would be nice to hear from those happy people, instead of these fake comments of just how GREAT ashford is from the advisors and employees. I wouldnt pay attention to these sites anyways.
Serena November 24, 2007 at 3:19 p.m.
For the poster who keeps asking for someone who's currently taking classes, well I am one of those people. So far my experience at Ashford has been great! I've been enrolled since March and started from the very beginning because I didn't have any college credits. My enrollment adviser said she would waive the enrollment fee for me and she did. I also got help applying for financial aid and getting my G.I. Bill. I've been able to buy most of my books used online at amazon.com or abebooks.com, then sold them back when the class was over. Every so often my academic adviser calls me to make sure everything is okay. Personally, I have nothing but good things to say about Ashford.
Travis November 26, 2007 at 3:06 p.m.
I don't know about everyone else, but I had a great experience with Ashford. From the very begenning, everyone was professional, phone calls and e-mails were returned in a timely manner and I never had any issues. I hear alot of stories about books and the book store. For all the college students out there, Who pays full price for books? You can go to half.com and buy book for 30-50% off the school price. I think I only had to buy 2 custom books from Ashford, the rest I bought else where. Other than that I just finished and I have no complaints. Ashford is a good school and is very convenient for working class people like myself. So I give it two thumbs up.. Oh yeah! If this school was scaming they would not be accredited, actually they were just ranked one of the top schools of 2008 in America's Best Colleges, so how did that happen if they are so horrible. Go figure! It is just with everything else in life, everything is not for everybody.
Don November 27, 2007 at 8:46 p.m.
It works for me!
I am currently in the MBA program at Ashford University and enjoying the experience. I previously received my Bachelor's of Science in Management at Kaplan University; I could have gotten the MBA through them, but I was used to their system I wanted a new challenge. Ashford offers challenging course-work; the professors and university staff are very helpful. I use the online format because of the time restraints I have with work and it serves me in the best possible way. I am sure not everyone will have a good experience, but I have no complaints.
Regards,
Don
sarah lynn November 28, 2007 at 2:15 a.m.
I sure hope someone can help! I was considering going to either Northcentral university or Ashford university. I was wondering if any students that have taken classes or graduated to contact me. I consider school a serious step in ones life, so i just want to get truthful information...please help - Blissfulkittycat@yahoo.com
Jenny December 10, 2007 at 9:15 p.m.
Hi I'm thinking about attending Ashford to earn my BS in Elementary Education and wanted to know if any one who is currently attending this university has advice for me in regards to the Elementary program? Thanks
Dr. D December 18, 2007 at 5:27 a.m.
Having a Ph.D. in engineering I decided to change my field of learning to education. I went back to Ashford to recieve both a BA and a MA to enable the teachhing of management classes on line. I have found Ashford University to be an excellent school with top notch educators. Most of the educators have MA or PhD's from very well established school. Education is what you make of it, don't blame bad results on the school when online education is not for everyone. As far as class I think you will find the cost of 4 year degrees higher on the average, yes community colleges are less expensive, but they only offer 2 year degrees. I have recommend Ashford to many people I know and everyone of them have no complaints.
Liz Scott December 21, 2007 at 6:04 p.m.
I'm pursuing my bachelors in health care administration. I am enjoying my experience at Ashford. Some professors require more detail than others but I am the type of person who enjoys the challenge. After navigating through blackboard and becoming familiar with assignment procedures, I have officially became a pro. I just had a chance to review my degree audit and I'm so pleased with the layout. My transcripts have been applied towards my future course scheduling. All of the degree requirements are lined in black and white and I have a clear understanding on the courses needed for the completion of my degree. Ashford is very organized and they do all the leg work. The only thing you have to do is have good attendence, two absences lead to no credit for the course.
Danny December 22, 2007 at 9:37 a.m.
I've been an on-line student with Ashford University for over one year and a half, and I've never had any problems. I only have five classes left to graduate. Ashford University gave me a second chances because of my bad gpa from my past years in college and they took care of my financial aid for me. Because I have to study, read and write more often by myself, I've improved in those areas a lot. I've received thousands of dollars on grants, that being beside my Standford loan. I would recommend this university to others.
Here is what you need to know December 24, 2007 at 8:35 p.m.
The online university programs are all a rip off AKA Kaplan, University of Phoenix, Ashford. If you are going to pay a ton of money for a program that does not compare to a land campus, Ashford is cheaper and better than the rest. It is still expensive and has MANY fees.
It also depends on if you get an enrollment advisor that is great or an idiot. There are all types.
See, the advisor's have numbers to make each week. It is an intense sales cubicle environment full of manipulators.
My advice? If you must go online, see if your local community college offers classes online or go to a land campus.
Good Luck
Happy Camper December 26, 2007 at 12:10 a.m.
I'm so glad I chose Ashford to complete my BSHCA. I love this school and everyone has been so helpful. I was so confused when it came to picking a college to attend but now I'm confident that this was a good decision. I'm enjoying my college experience and looking forward to achieving my degree.
ELF December 27, 2007 at 9:20 p.m.
IS ANYONE TAKING THE B.S. OF SOCIAL SCIENCE PROGRAM? I'M INTERESTED AND WANT TO KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND THE SCHOOL. THANKS!
MJ December 31, 2007 at 5:23 a.m.
Hi,
I was a student at Ashford University until I became ill and had to withdraw. My experience with AU was great and I will be returning to finish my degree. The student advisor I had and the professors always helped me out when I had questions. I am married with two small children and found AU to be the perfect choice for me because community colleges only offer a two year degree and the nearest four year college is almost sixty miles away. Another reason why I liked AU was the fact that it was a real school with a real campus and I would have the option to graduate with my class in cap and gown if I chose to.
I feel bad for all of you that had a bad experience, but you can have bad experiences at any school. Good luck to all of you.
OH-ME-OH-MY December 31, 2007 at 11:12 p.m.
Ok,
I have read all of the comments,not that I have changed my mind but it has caused me to make sure that I dot all of my I’s and cross all of my T’s. The advisor that I have seems to know what he is talking about so far. I am known to as 100s of question until I get an understanding. I believe that I am making the right choice. The only thing that I am concerned about is the books. I went on black board and it said that you have to use their book. In other words purchased them from the school. Which is not right because you can get them cheaper else where. If there is anyone with books you used for your B A of social science mail me flj@ameritech.net
I still have until next week to change my mind.
confuse January 11, 2008 at 5:35 p.m.
what's the maximun "class" you can take? the lady told me one but you may double it in the future but...when?
un January 11, 2008 at 10:08 p.m.
For those of you whining about the cost of online courses through ANY university compared to a community college - the whole point of a community college is that it's cheaper!! We're talking a university here people!!
SHK January 12, 2008 at 5:04 a.m.
I am a little lost at this point, I want to make a change in my life and find the right school,but it is a little hard with all of the neagative things being said.
Nadia January 15, 2008 at 4:58 a.m.
After reading these comments I'm going to disenroll. I don't mind paying the $55 app. fee.I will consider it a lesson learned.
I'm going to research the college a little more.
Mike January 17, 2008 at 7:38 p.m.
I attended a land grant university in Oklahoma before chosing Ashford. The cost are similar after all fees are added in and some of the complaints about financial aid on here I also had at Oklahoma State University.
I personally enjoy being able to use my own learning methods in the online format because I do not have to decipher what the intent was of the in-class instructor. It is in black and white and I can go back and re-read the expecations in the Learning Blocks if I have questions about my initial interpretaion.
I am in the Social Science program with an Education concentration and I have enjoyed my time in it so far.
SC January 20, 2008 at 11:13 p.m.
I am a current Ashford student just two classes away from graduating with a major in psychology. THE GOOD: Ashford does have some great professors with true real world experience and good academic credentials. The quality of the textbooks is generally outstanding. The content of the courses is excellent and can lead to a high quality education if you apply yourself and do not take shortcuts with assignments (much the same as at any university). THE BAD: Many professors have limited involvement with students. The school is making a LOT of money off online students considering the high tuition and low bottom line that. I think that students deserve (and pay for) a lot more feedback than they receive. The instructions for assignments can be confusing, and obtaining clarification is sometimes challenging. The tuition is not exactly cheap. Cost per undergraduate class ranges from $771 to well over $900 depending on the level of the class. My husband said we spent over $27,000 last year on my tuition. Moreover, in my two years at Ashford, there have been two tuition hikes. THE VERDICT: In terms of quality and ease of education, I would probably give Ashford a low B. It is not a bad experience overall, but there is still quite a bit of room for improvement. My biggest beef (a problem common to online schools) is the lack of instructor involvement with students.
it's been a nightmare January 22, 2008 at 7:15 p.m.
I finally decided to further my education and chose to do so online. I found Ashford on the internet. I took one class and it went well. I then started another class and ordered my books well in advance from a company that they suggested. I didn't get my books until 4 wks into the course. My advisor told me to go ahead and drop the class and retake it.........not telling me that I would have to repay my grant for the class. I started retaking the class and finally got ahold of The Department of Education in my state and found out the class I was enrolled in would not transfer, so I didn't finish the class and now they are having a collection agency after me to repay for the two classes which is $2,100.00. I got nothing from this college and was just trying to better myself and now I have a big debt. Does anyone have any suggestions??? I was told by their collection agency that they would pursue it and take me to court and it will end up costing me a lot more. Has anyone been sued by them??? Any help would be appreciated!!!
AVOID January 22, 2008 at 8:09 p.m.
Ashford on-line is a joke, as I am sure most on-line degrees are. I spent a bunch of money for nothing. You order overpriced books from their store. Log on and spend one or two nights doing the entire course.This is fine if you do not want to really learn anything and just have some paper to show people. Oh and if they think you owe them money they use Gestopo like tactics. Do yourself a favor and enroll in a REAL school.
eeeeeeeee!!!!!! January 22, 2008 at 11:51 p.m.
I just got off the phone with an enrollment advisor earlier, she will be calling me tomorrow. I'm suppose to have an answer for her then....After reading all these comments, I can't help but think maybe 'happening upon this site' was for a reason. I think I will wait to hear back from the real university I was hoping to get accepted into.
confused January 26, 2008 at 5:01 a.m.
i almost chose to to ashford. i was supost to start tuesday. i was so excited to start untill i got another call from another university telling me that i would have to go to ashford's campuse in iowa before i couldgraduate. they showed me were on ashfords online web sight where it says requiremnts. concidering i am a single mom who lives in florida i think they should of mentioned that to me. when i talked to my advisor at ashford and showed him, he had no clue what that ment and never herd of it. but it was on thier sight. i felt very rushed and i was going to start school before all my finacial aid was sighned. i actually didn't sign anything. i was also told that my finacial aid will cover my books and the 900.00 black board cost and use of the library and none of thats covered. and i had to ask about the 900.00 fee and what it was for. so i am happy about changing my mind but now i don't know where to go. i know i will pay out the butt for my education and thats fine with me i just wish they would be honest about it. i would hate to pay 55,000 for my degree and not be able to get it because i can't move to iowa.
GOOD SCHOOL, IDIOTS NEED NOT APPLY January 28, 2008 at 5 a.m.
I recently got my BA in Organizational Management from Ashford. I live in Pa and DID NOT have to travel to Ashford's campus in Iowa in order to graduate. Some of the negative comments I have read are so absurd, its proof that some people have nothing better to do then to go online and start trouble. This forum is a joke and its obvious that the people who are whining about Ashford are not doing their research! I am currently pursing an MA in Organzational Management through Ashford and enjoying the experience. Ashford offers every opportunity to succeed. If you can't order your books in a timely fashion or get your financial aid straight then you don't belong in school, PERIOD!
Annie February 4, 2008 at 1:17 a.m.
So far so good. I actually feel the textbooks are well-written and very interesting. It makes sense that they are specific to distance learning as you are not attending lectures. As soon as you begin your first course you are given a writing consultant who is ready, willing and able to answer any questions you might have regarding college level writing. The on-line tutorials are great. The on-line writing workshop makes reviewing grammar and punctuation rules easy and almost effortless.
I like the fact that the instructors follow a template for grading and instruction. As long as you organize your time wisely you should be fine.
Not Pleased February 12, 2008 at 9:53 p.m.
Ok.. Here is the deal:
The enrollment advisors are just terrific in getting you to sign up, yes they are patient, they know how to talk to your 'emotions' really well, and that is fine with me; I was jazzed to sign up. But then it went downhill.
After enrolling, I realized they totally lied to me about getting Financial Aid (I had given them my info and they said I would get a ton, I ended up getting nil, nothing). So they BS you on that big time. Furthermore, the MOST FURSTRATING PART was never getting a freakin' phone call or email back after enrolling. Not from ANY department. EVER!!
My enrollment advisor initials I.Q. completely fell off the face of the earth after I enrolled. He never called me back in my first week of classes, when I had questions about how I was going to afford all this since Financial Aid did not come through. Well, that wasn't important anymore since he got his slice of the pie. Considering it's an online school, you'd think that they would REPLY TO EMAILS (non-face to face contact) - but that was equally as hard. I don't know what their problem is over there. I'd be ill advised to sign up to this school because the support system is not there after you enroll.
Suzy February 13, 2008 at 9:18 p.m.
Negative reviews like this devalue the GREAT education I am recieving at Ashford.
To the last poster- I'm confused about how you got NO financial aid at all, when filling out a FAFSA entitles darn near everyone to low interest loans.... did you think financial aid meant they would give you grants or a check or something?! CMON!
Don't Blame Ashford! February 14, 2008 at 1:29 a.m.
Once again people are blaming Ashford for their own shortcomings. It is up to the individual to take the proper steps to enroll, order books, apply for financial aid and pass the courses. If you are unable to get financial aid through the federal government there are plenty of alternatives. Quit crying when your enrollemnt advisor does not call you back right away. Ashford has more than just one person to answers your questions. My experience with Ashford has been great and it is frustrating to see incompetent people writing negative comments.
Jen February 19, 2008 at 4:15 a.m.
I think it is interesting so many people are talking about how expensive ashford is. Have you people actually done your research? I could not go to a traditional school where I live for the same price. You also must figure in the fact that you are taking classes on your own time. I have not seen any fees or crazy charges that I would not see at a traditional school. I recieved my degree from a community college and am finishing up with ashford. The community college had more fees, I had to pay for the athletic department which I was not part of any many other things I did not use. You can not get an education for free, and if it were not for schools like ashford I would not be able to finish my schooling at all. Sure I think it could be better and the professors could be more involved but hey be an adult and do the work and learn. It will work for you if you are willing to do the work. Yes I agree ashford is not perfect but I am thankful that I am able to get an education and anyone who can get an education at a university for $20 a unit (credit??) let me in on your secret, if that was the case why do we have so many people struggling to get an education?? This is a university! If you do your research you will find ashford is cheaper than most with the same accredidation.
Kim February 19, 2008 at 6:40 a.m.
I am currently enrolled in the BAOM program with Ashford. My experience so far, has been phenominal. I have tried traditional schools, UOP online and Ashford by far works best for me. I knew that my only viable option for completing my bachelor's degree was by doing it online. Going to school online is not cheap. I know this because I have done my research. Compared with all the other accelerated adult learning and online schools, Ashford is one of the lesser expensive schools. My sister attends San Francisco State Univ and they use Blackboard for their online courses, too. My sister is almost complete with her bachelor's degree with SFSU, but desires to complete her Masters online, perhaps even with Ashford.
I have been very impressed with the responsiveness that I get from Ashford. I didn't have the same problems as other posters because I did my research. There were no surprises. Also, compared to UOP online, I feel like I am getting a much more valuable education from Ashford.
I highly recommend Ashford Online, period. Yes, it is expensive, but when I think about the convenience and what I will be gaining, it is so worth it. I believe that the folks that have complained are not being very objective. Any of those issues that they have raised are some of the same issues that my sister complains about SFSU, her community college and imagine the complaints I here from current UOP students.
If it is a cheap education that you want, then go ahead and toil with going to school three or four days out of the week for several hours a day. I will be cruising right past you to my degree and into my new career.
Kim February 19, 2008 at 6:49 a.m.
Another thought. There seems to be this pervasive notion that education should be cheap. Well, news flash to those who have been sleeping all of their lives - it is not cheap! This is why adults pause at having children...they know that some day the cost of college will catch up to them. When it is all said and done, I will have paid about 19k out of pocket for my education (my employer will pay a large portion). That is so worth it to me. I have financed cars and paid them off with more money than 19k. The current job that I do now could pay that off in no time, too. People need to put things in perspective. I am not saying that online education or even Ashford is right for everyone. But, don't taint Ashford's reputation because you have a lack of understanding of how the higher educational process (and financing) works. Get educated about the schools you plan to attend before you sign up. When I was choosing schools, I had four or five to choose from. Ashford stood out as the most bang for the buck university. Plus, it is a real brick and mortar school. I feel quite blessed to have the opportunity to get the same level of education as my traditional school counterparts.
john February 26, 2008 at 6:04 p.m.
Did anybody get an MBA from Ashford and if so how did the job market accept the degree?
Shannon February 29, 2008 at 6:35 p.m.
HAs any one had a hard time finding a job teaching after finsh Ashford?
Do you want an education or not? March 7, 2008 at 7:12 a.m.
Ashford University, I am strongly considering! I want to finish completing a BA and then an MA in Organizational Management. Any skeptic that wonders about any online school should check out this link http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/ and get over themselves. Do you want to learn or not? I think a lot of uninspired individuals think that they will be rewarded a degree online without effort and they find out that isn't the case. Ultimately after this rude awakening they want to discontinue their educational path. Well, I'm not saying that some injustices are impossible by Universities on or off line, but more than likely it's from a lack of inspiration on the student's part. Notice, Ashford University, AIU, UOP, and others are listed on the web link above. In order to be placed on this link, the school must meet the scrutinized requirements of the US Department of Education. Also, visit wikipedia.com. You can get all the information you need about a school, just type the school name in the search. Are we not in the computer age my fellow degree seekers? Do your homework, kids, do your homework and the bounty of options will unravel. Happy hunting and hoorah for online degrees! Get your degree and be proud of what you've done. If an employer doesn't accept your degree just dismiss them, although I seriously doubt they will, since most employees don't have a degree at all. That means you are still in the running towards becoming Americas Next Top Employee. And who was the nut that came up with this "for profit" stuff. Every higher learning institution is "for profit". They offer you a service and experience "an education". When you find a "for free" university, please let me know? I want to go there. I just love learning. Don't you just love learning too?
Great School March 8, 2008 at 4:34 p.m.
I graduated with a Masters from Ashford University. Great school and great faculty. You have to earn your degree there. They just don't give you a degree for applying. Lazy people or complainers need not apply. My degree is well respected in the workforce.
About Ashford March 8, 2008 at 4:51 p.m.
Ashford brought me to the road of earning my Phd. I was a campus student at Ashford and completed my Bachelors and Masters there. Now, I will be a doctorate graduate next year from Liberty University. They are an online and on campus university that offers Phd Degree Programs. It hasn't been a cheap road, but it is worth it. Once you earn a higher learning status you cherish it, because not many people have the opportunity, or just don't possess the dedication, or the willingness to work hard for a degree. Not many employers turn away Degree graduates. Just think of that if you are still pondering on the cost of an education? A better salary for a lifetime and larger retirement is well worth the blood, sweat, and tears while you still have the clear mind to do it.
Joe March 8, 2008 at 10:33 p.m.
Wow... this thread is full of Enrollment Counselors... LOL
Any university that gives credit for "Life Experience" is BS plain and simple.
Jasmine March 11, 2008 at 8:15 p.m.
I have earned some credit through life experience. Ashford calls it PLA (Prior Learning Assessment). They don't just give you credits for your experience. In my case, I had taken courses in Health Care Administration that were part of a certification program through a private company. They evaluated my certification and awarded me credit. There was some work and documentation required on my end in order to prove that college level learning took place. Ashford allowed me to receive credit for my previous time, energy, and investment. Ignorance must be great Joe...you can say or do anything you want and don't have to hold yourself accountable.
Joe March 13, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.
Any school that lets you transfer and get "PLA" for 99 credit hours is bogus. In traditional schools you can't transfer past your junior year (60). They do give you credit just for life experience, up to 75 "non-traditional" credit hours. It is BS darlin!
Thanx for playing though!
amanda March 19, 2008 at 11:28 a.m.
I am currently enrolled in their online program for psychology and I can tell you it's not a 'bogus' school. I did attend another university for 2 1/2 years and not all of my credits transferred and not because of grades either, I am a a 4.0 student. And Jasmine's credits for her courses in health care administration are certainly applicable. What AU is trying to do is simplify the non-traditional students time due to our already hectic life schedule and why take classes that you have already taken? It's not like they said 'Oh you have done this and this and have this experience from work and life in general so we will give you credit', what they said was you have been certified and have taken classes that co-inside with our requirements and classes so why make you take them again. In most non-traditional schoolers they are middle age with a multitude of classes already taken and certificates already achieved so why shouldn't they apply?
Joe, you really should know what you are talking about before opening your mouth. It's not just credit for 'Life experience', it is credit for classes already taken, courses already taken, certifications already achieved.
And why would you want to get on here and belittle anyone for going out and achieving their goals? What you said in your posts can be mentally damaging to a non traditional student who already feels like they are behind in life and are trying their best to get back on track. I have spent much time researching AU and let me tell you darlin, it's not BS and AU is not the only school out there who gives PLA credit.
an AU student March 19, 2008 at 11:41 a.m.
I have been reading some of these posts and some seem a little ridiculous. Sure you can blame the advisor's for not answering your questions throughly, but what did you do to seek the answers? Did you really push and pursue it? Did you try talking with someone else? And as for the those who had bad experiences with their instructor, they are people too with other lives, their main job is not being an online instructor for AU so give them some slack and be compassionate and understanding if they are apparently having a rough go, you would want them to do the same for you (and from personal experience they do!)I also want to point out that this is for people who are truly ready and 100% committed to going back and getting their degree. If you had a bad experience you are entitled to be upset and not satisfied but good god stop whining and find another adviser, counselor and if you don't care for your instructor talk to your adviser about taking the class at a different time with a new instructor. But if you don't care for your instructor because the work is too hard or they demand too much out of you then you should not even be enrolled here.
Many people give online education crap, but due to my work and life and I can not attend school other than online, and there are many schools who offer online programs, sate university's, private college's, community colleges, etc. so just because it's an online program does that lessen the reputation of the school? NO. The online schools you have to be weary about are those who have no physical campus, schools that have not been established for very long or just recently established, and you can do much research on the web these days to find out if your school is legit or not and Ashford is legit!!!
D March 20, 2008 at 4:01 a.m.
I like Ashford University. I have had problems at many schools, from Community College to University of Arizona, to Ashford. Sometimes I have to send a second e-mail, or call my advisory to get an answer for me, but if you push for it and stop waiting to be spoon fed you get your answer. It is easier for me to get answers here than it was at University of Arizona where you had to wait for slow bureaucracy to push paper until you got something approved months later.
You get as much as you put in. If you read all of your assignments, spend time writing carefully though out papers, you will learn from this school.
Joe March 20, 2008 at 5:34 a.m.
@amanda
I have read the PLA guide to Ashford located here...
http://www.ashford.edu/online/forms/PLAG...
You can get credit for any BS workshop you slept through and or attend a conference, grab a bunch of brochures and scratch something on your company letterhead and get credit. Or you can write an Experience based Essay with bogus PP to accompany it. Through the Essay route you can BS any credits you want as long as you match it up to the course reqirements.
It's total BS darlin!
I know other online schools do it... I think they are BS too!!
Joe March 20, 2008 at 5:42 a.m.
Mentally damaging... it is the real world of business I prepare her for Amanda. As a hiring manager for a Global Fortune 500 I think my opinion matters. When weeding out applications from for-profit schools I look to see if they give too much credit and require too little documenation for PLA. Ashford gives way too much and requires far too little to support the knowledge base. If they are so keen to have you get credit they should make you test out of it like normal schools do. If they did that then they would lose enrollment... heaven forbid. It is also the first sign of a diploma mill... not saying Ashford is, but it is a sign.
Idiot... March 20, 2008 at 9:21 a.m.
Please be careful: I have recently enrolled with Ashford as a transfer student. I was given the great customer service and was told that financial aid would help pay for tuition. My enrollment advisor ( Bobbijo) placed me in a "reflection" course called EXP 105. After reading the course description and materials, I immediately contacted Bobbijo and stated that there must be some confusion. I don’t need refresher courses and she stated that they are required and that I didn't tell her that I had taken previous college credits. Why would I not? I also sent her an email. Then I called Erin Denner (my archenemy advisor) and asked her what are the procedures for transfer students and she stated that I did not mention that I was transfer student on my application. But she did receive my transcripts from one of my schools and waiting for the others to come in. She also stated that I should contact my enrollment advisor concerning the course and the next course, which is PsY202. (Another reflection course) they are both mandatory courses and will be used as electives. I decided to take the course and give it a try. I shouldn't have. I feel like many of the other angry persons on this blog. I was taken in as an idiot. I now have to pay $771 for the EXP 105 course, which I was almost done with but will never be used as credits. Plus cancel the loans that I had to take out because financial aid did not help with the tuition and fees and not to mention $50 registration fee and $100 book voucher that was waived and most likely have to pay for. And the $9oo web something??? Fee. Like many of the positive postings above, the EXP 105 was a fake and seem like the posting were from the advisors themselves. I could not believe the students postings. "This course change my life" and "I apply all that I have learned to my home and work" When do adult students and parents with jobs feel like time management was ever an issue or by reading a book with help them figure out all their problems in just 3-4 weeks?? I must have been retarded. If you are going through this, please email me jodiaz28@hotmail. By the way, I have tried to contact my advisors but still haven't heard from them after several messages.
Easy does it, folks... March 20, 2008 at 10:18 p.m.
For online students, the fees are as follows:
Tuition - $257/ credit hour for 100 level classes & $330/ credit hour for 200 - 400 level classes.
Technology Services fee ( A ONE-TIME CHARGE ) - $990
Compare this to other schools repeated charges of a myriad of different - and unexplainable - fees that, generally, add up to an excess of $2500 in the end.
Graduation fee ( charged when petition for graduation is submitted) - $110.
Application fee ( unless you receive an App. fee waiver ) - $55.
Period. These are the only fees that are assessed an online student unless they choose to go the PLA route, use additional tutoring services, miss payments, write bad checks to the school, choose a concentration for their program, etc.
Textbooks are your responsibility. Note to those who do not know: NO school gives you textbooks for free. When a rep. from a school tells you that your books are "included" in your tuition, what they mean is that the extra amount for textbooks has been added to the base tuition rate for their classes OR the school will be keeping your Financial Aid overpayment amount and paying themselves for your textbooks and shipping them to you. It is up to the institution to make this choice. Rather have your Financial Aid overpayment amount (stipend) sent to you? Enroll at Ashford.
That's it. Plain and simple.
Also, there are NO Bachelor of Science degrees offered at Ashford U., only Bachelor of Arts degrees. I suggest that those of you who do not know the difference between the two degree types do your research.
Another thing: Financial Aid refers to ALL forms, programs, etc. of aid for, in this case, school. Financial Aid does NOT refer to the Pell Grant or "free" aid ONLY. Federal Student Aid, also known as Title IV funding, is/ includes a large group of different aid programs. When a student completes her/ his FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid), s/he is "blanket" applying for ALL Title IV funding. This INCLUDES Stafford loans.
If you don't want to get "screwed," do your research. When something like your investment in an academic degree program fails -- and you applied to a Regionally accredited school -- blame yourself because you did not do the proper research/ ask the necessary questions or pay attention to what your responsibilities were.
Melochma March 21, 2008 at 2:25 p.m.
Attention, readers! Be VERY careful to read through all of these posts to find where the blame/ responsibility for the problems with the Ashford student experience truly lies. The people who complain sate explicitly -- without knowing, apparently -- incorrect information about the school, it's procedures, protocol, prices, programs, etc. This, rather blaringly, states and proves the point that the folks with problems obviously did not pay attention to what they were told and getting themselves into.
I must state that there are entirely too many misinformed Enrollment Advisors at Ashford who do provide incorrect info to prospective students and are truly in it for the sale or to "make the number." If, at any time while talking with an Ashford U. Enrollment Advisor, you feel like you are speaking with a telemarketer, simply demand that the person you are speaking with transfer you to someone who knows what they are talking about and will listen / tend to YOUR needs. There are plenty of sincere (and educated/ informed) Advisors working at Ashford. Avoid the waste of time speaking with those who are simply telemarketers.
Tamatha March 21, 2008 at 6:50 p.m.
You should ask to talk to Charlene Nicoletto or Aaron Holst for they know what they are talking about. Cant say the same for others.
amanda March 21, 2008 at 9:03 p.m.
Joe,
I am not saying the AU is necessarily right for allowing that much PLA especially since they don't make people test but I am saying that while I would not submit some class I slept through as PLA I do not blame those who do. The bottom line is that you are going to get what you want to get out of this experience and if you want to get credit for PLA from some class you slept through and gained nothing from so be, your grades are going to reflect your laziness. However many who are going back to get their BA are motivated and wanting to learn.
Just so you know I too am part of a managerial team who is well known and respected and has made the Forbes 500 many many many times and I too am a hiring manager and I do understand your points but why tear down those who are excited about the prospect of moving forward or finally achieving something they started so long ago and were never able to finish due to life circumstances?
As a hiring manager I am sure you can tell the difference of a real go getter and a lazy SOB, also I would like to point out that what they do with their PLA is up to them and if they are just adding stuff they slept through or got no learning from it will show in the end result.
I also understand your concerns for diploma mills, I was extremely weary of continuing my education online but AU was an excellent choice and I was just accepted to the psychology doctoral program at Cornell University so again it's what the person puts into it and it will show in the final result.
And when I said mentally damaging I just meant maybe you should be a little more considerate of people's life challenges and circumstances and give them the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they really did learn something from all the PLA that are getting credit for and if not, again, it will show in the end result.
Joe March 23, 2008 at 10:25 a.m.
As fellow HR staff for major corporations I think you can appreciate the daunting task of sorting through thousands of applications per week. We do not have time to see if they are a go getter or a lazy SOB by looking at a doctored up CV. The two major criteria you base the time to use setting up an interview for potential candidates are experience and schooling. The experience and the company you worked for get the most weight but the reputation of the school helps too. Getting a degree from Ashford is just ticking a mark on the application, getting a degree from a highly ranked program is a badge of honour that catches my attention. I see so many online degrees hitting my desk along with the traditional what else am I supposed to do? There isn't enough time in my life to set up interviews for most of them.
amanda March 24, 2008 at 1 a.m.
I most certainly can and I do take the time to go through and I try to get as much background information on them as I can. You know, I know on paper I am not an ideal candidate but I have had many struggles in my life and AU was the only option for me, I could not go to a physical campus and I could not find another online program to gear me for what I ultimately want to do in life. If my application were to come across your desk you throw it away and not think twice about it and that is fine if that is how you deal with hiring people because it is time consuming and it is tedious and you want the best but just because someone got a degree from a highly ranked school does not necessarily mean they are the best.
I am damn good at what I do and I am talented and I am intelligent and outgoing and motivated and a very quick learner with a 4.0 GPA currently, I graduated HS with a 3.7 and got a 31 on my ACT's, but on paper I do not look like what you would consider an ideal person because I went to another university for three years got sick had to go home got a fabulous job but then got married and moved and had to quit and then got divorced and bounced from job to job trying to do what I had to do to make ends meet and I struggled the whole way. In fact because of my resume I have been turned down for jobs, I have been turned down for entry level positions and finally someone saw past the papers and the words and saw me for me and gave me a chance and I am quickly climbing to the top, but this is why I look past the marks on the paper and try to see people for who they are.
And AU does have a physical location, an actual campus and it is a good school. It's similar to Tiffin University, a very good school and they now offer online programs and the school is national accredited and highly respected. SO while I say watch out for Phoenix and diploma mills you have to know that there are good schools out there who are getting with the times and offering an online BA that is just as worthy as going to the actual school.
Joe March 24, 2008 at 9:27 a.m.
I am glad someone finally found you and gave you a shot. You obviously have different criteria given your circumstances but you are by far the minority of corporate HR. I am the majority and people reading this should know what they will face in the REAL world of corporate hires.
When going through paper that is all I have to make an initial decision. If you have good experience that no one else has you will be meeting me for an interview, regardless of your degree. It's not like I just throw them away. If your experience is equal to someone with better schools I will obviously take a look at them first. If that doesn't work out I will call you. The fact you graduate with a 4.0 when you couldn't even get that in HS should tell you something about the school. Getting a 4.0 from an upper tier school is rare but these online programs have 4.0s by the boat loads.
Watch out for Phoenix... they have the same accreditation as Ashford. Watch out for schools that offer too much PLA that require too little documentation. The fact they can get you a BA in as little as 12 months and offer 99 transfer credits is bogus. At least UOP doesn't take 75 credits of PLA like Ashford, only 60. Watch out for degree programs that don't have professional accreditation which is something Ashford has not received. Business degrees should have AACSB, technology degrees should have ABET, education degrees should have NCATE and your program of Psychology should have APA accreditation. I don't see Ashford on the APA list...
http://www.allpsychologyschools.com/find...
How do you become a hiring manager at a Fortune 500 without a college degree? It is a prerequisite.
amanda March 24, 2008 at 5:13 p.m.
Okay how I got the job, it's complicated and long and I don't feel I have to answer to you but: it is technically not necessary to have a college degree (although many will not look at you if you do not have one but you should know that), you can have so many years of experience and you must be within a year of graduating. There were many other underlaying factors as well and due to an illness I did not graduate in less then a year from getting the job but by then I was hired in and performing above average and they understood how sick I was so all I had to do was get better and then re-enroll once I was better and here I am today.
My HS GPA was because I was lazy and didn't do the work, this is not a reflection on AU, when I was in college the first time as a traditional student at a upper tier university, I also had a 4.0.
Ashford is: Recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation and the U.S. Department of Education.
The institutions listed here have been accredited by this accrediting organization as of November 2007.
www.chea.org/search/actionInst.asp
The Higher Learning Commission (HLC) is an independent corporation and one of two Commission members of the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA), which was founded in 1895 as one of six regional institutional accreditors in the United States. The Higher Learning Commission accredits, and thereby grants membership in the Commission and in the North Central Association, to degree-granting educational institutions in the North Central region: Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, North Dakota, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Mexico, South Dakota, Wisconsin, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
HLC is recognized by the US Department of Education and the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA).
www.ncahigherlearningcommission.org/
and just so you know: What kinds of programs are accredited?
Doctoral graduate programs in
1. clinical,
2. counseling,
3. school psychology,
4. other developed practice areas, and
5. combinations of two or three of those areas
Pre-doctoral internships in the above areas may be accredited.
Postdoctoral residencies in traditional (clinical, counseling, school) or specialty areas of professional psychology are also accredited.
The CoA does not accredit master’s level or undergraduate level programs in psychology.
www.apa.org/ed/accreditation/accrfaq.htm...
and on a final note Joe, Ashford can not be all that bad, after all I am going to be going to Cornell University for my PhD.
Now I am truly aware of the issues with online programs and I am aware of others concerns for it, and there are two sides to ever issue and I think on this we need to agree to disagree on Ashford University. I think it's a wonderful school and I am blessed that I can have this opportunity to get my life back on track.
amanda March 24, 2008 at 5:25 p.m.
Joe,
I also want to point out that you don't see Ashford on that list of APA accredidation because that list if for all graduate and doctoral programs and the schools that offer them. I also want you look at that list, Argosy is an online doctoral degree program and they are on that list, does that make it okay for me to go get my doctorates online from them?
BA programs are never going to be on that list, just for your information
Joe March 25, 2008 at 12:49 a.m.
I am a hiring manager for a regional office of a Global 500 having an AACSB accredited MBA from The Citadel. The chances I have the same job as college drop outs are none but I digress.
Your GPA is only relative to your experiences. You said you went to school for 2 1/2 years at another school, what school and what GPA was that? I don't see you listing it.
Ashford does hold regional accreditation but so does the University of Phoenix which is the same level of school Ashford online is. UOP actually has CACREP accreditation for it's counseling program which is more than one can say for Ashford.
It is kind of hard for you to be going to Cornell for a PhD when you have to finish your undergrad first. They won't take your application until you have completion of the degree. Do you think we don't know how grad schools work? Your going to have to take a GRE too! You don't have to do that to get into Ashford's grad school. I see why you HOPE to get into Cornell, you may just do it but you really shouldn't put the cart before the horse.
Good luck in your hopes and dreams because you're going to need it with a degree from Ashford ONLINE!
Emma March 25, 2008 at 2:12 a.m.
Joe,
I have read all your posts and what I can't understand is why you are so very negative about this school. Who burned you? I am currently enrolled at AU, and did not receive any "PLA" credits, only credits I actually earned from an accreted university. I only had 33 previous credits, therefore it will take about 3 years for me to earn my BA. Never was I told that I could have my degree in 12 months, not at Ashford anyway. UOP did tell me it would only take about 12-18 months at almost twice the cost of AU. You need to realise that there are so many people that truly want to better themselves by continuning their edcuation, but are unable to attend the "B&M" schools. You could be curshing someones "hopes and dreams" insinuating that a degree from Ashford is useless. I feel that is completly crule, and irresponsiable, of you to make a comment like that just to make your point seem valid. I'm persuing my BA to become a teacher. I am surrounded by 4 of the top ISD's in my area (N. Texas). I contacted them all to question if they accept teachers with on-line degrees. Not only do they except them, but a total of 7 teachers were hired just this past year alone (two with Ashford degrees). I'm sure Ashford could use some improvement, but nothing is perfect. Including your arrogent and hatefull comments.
Juice March 25, 2008 at 3:04 a.m.
Hey Joe,
Online education is the wave of the future and within the next few years no one is going to care whether you completed your degree online or on campus. For your information Ashford University is a brick and mortar institution that happens to offer online degrees. Ashford also has athletic teams. Many traditional brick and mortar schools offer online programs and its only going to grow. Look, I understand Ashford is not Harvard, USC or even the Citadel, but for some people it works. Isn't the Citadel a very very poor man's West Point? Its a watered down military school for posers like yourself. You were probably a spineless non-military student. Joe, you are proof that the world is overpopulated and some people need to go.
Joe March 25, 2008 at 7:15 a.m.
to Emma: Who burned me... online graduates I hired who failed to perform and got me in trouble.
Who at Ashford says you can get your degree in as few as 12 months... the website.
http://www.ashford.edu/online/
If you didn't take advantage of PLA then you wasted a ton of money. They will give you 75 credit hours of it and up to 99 overall... 99!!
Am I crushing peoples dreams... don't know. I am telling people the reality of it though. If you folks haven't called around to HR at jobs you would like to work at and asked them what they think about ONLINE education with NO professional accreditation then who is to blame for dreaming what they shouldn't... not me. If your hiring manager has a professional accredited degree they WILL look for people of similar ilk. The only thing that can save you is working an entry level job at a high profile company for awhile to give you the experience that is going to catch my eye. This is fine for people in their twenties with no families but single mothers can ill afford to make such sacrifices for their families at later ages.
Teaching... there are always openings for teachers, they can't get them to replace those retiring fast enough. That is not a very good example unless you show us they got the job in a very competitive school over traditional candidates. They probably went to work in high risk schools. They have to get people to volunteer to do that. If you put up someone who has an MAT from The Citadel and an MAT from Ashford The Citadel grad is going to win.
Joe March 25, 2008 at 7:45 a.m.
to Juice: It isn't about it being online or not. It is about standards, curriculum, assessments, and outcomes. The standards to get into most of these schools including Ashford is none. Online programs at the big schools are the same as getting into the ground school which makes it far more selective. Take an SAT, take a GMAT, only take those who are qualified. Since they are open to inferior candidates they thus water down their curriculum and assessments so they can pass. The outcomes are thus over inflated grades. Just go through this website and see how many claim 4.0 GPAs... applications that flood my desk are full of 4.0s from UOP, Capella, Devry, and even Ashford.
Athletetic teams... you call intramurials teams? OK!
Why doesn't Ashford join the NCAA... because they don't qualify for the NCAA just like they don't qualify for many things regular schools do.
The Citadel is ranked #2 in US World News and Report offering up to a Master's degree and is a nationally ranked engineering school up to a Masters. It also has top professional accreditation for ALL of it's programs. Spineless... I see you have to resort to name calling but I won't because I am the better man.
Joe March 25, 2008 at 8:11 a.m.
BTW... I came to this review site considering an online doctoral degree. I still am but it will have AACSB professional accreditation behind it, if I can find one.
typo... US News and World Report
amanda March 25, 2008 at 10:52 a.m.
JOE,
I am a future Cornell student, I have the acceptance letter and I have taken my GRE's both the general and the adv psych and I was in the 95th percentile for both. Would you like me to post my scores for you too? I know perhaps I can mail you my actual acceptance letter!
I am not an idiot and I do not appreciate being talked to like one. I do not need to answer to you.
I am not a college drop out in the sense of I partied too much or it was too tough for me, I was sick but I have said that, and I have not named the other college I went to because I did not realize I had to detail by detail give you my life story, but I suppose the only way to shut you up is by telling you that upon graduating High School I went to Denison University I then had to leave because of a life threating disease but if you really wish to label me as a college drop out for that fine, it is what it is but how many people are labeled a college drop out because they were dying and to be hospitalized for the better part of a year?
I was simply here defending Ashford and it's online program and you have now gotten down right nasty and I am washing my hands of you.
I suppose to all of those who read this maybe you should take this final word from me:
In the business world some may shoot you down for an online degree, they may shun you for fulfilling your dreams and making your life better but do you want to work for someone like that?
amanda March 25, 2008 at 11:27 a.m.
And Joe yes you can get into grad school before you graduate, it's not like I don't graduate for another year, I graduate this spring and go to Cornell this fall. These are not hopes and dreams this is reality and i take great offense to how you ahve been talking to me.
I am also amazed at how I have to explain everything, it's like you want so badly for me to be wrong that you question everything in a negative manner just waiting for me to be wrong or to not answer so you can feel right and you do this because you are losing the argument, your argument style is very similar to that of a child and while I admit you did get the best of me in your comments it's now rather amusing to see some one of your stature, a citadel alum, a global 500 hiring manager for a regional office acting this way.
As far as I am concerned you don't have bragging rights over anyone else here just because you went to Citadel and you really should stop being so pompous and arrogant, it's not very becoming and it makes you look like a brat. And I am not name calling, I am telling you you look like a brat the way you are behaving on here.
(and I never said I held the same ranking job as you, I just said I was a hiring manager for a forbes list company, you are with out a doubt higher up then I but to refer to me in a rather negative manner as a college drop out was a bit below the belt since you don't know the circumstances or me.)
Joe March 25, 2008 at 1:13 p.m.
I'm sorry if I offended you Amanda... what kind of psychology field are you going into, ie clinical, industrial, counseling... etc?
syryn22 March 27, 2008 at 7:30 a.m.
That is my philosophy, Amanda. Who wants to work for an employer who doesn't truly value their employees? There is a lot more to a potential employee than just a degree. Experience, maturity, great inter-personal skills are some things that come to mind when I think of a great future employee. I would not be impressed with a student from Harvard or Stanford barely passing versus an Ashford University student making straight A's. And if that student with bad grades from Stanford doesn't have any work experience, please tell me how in the world would they be better than the Ashford University student with straight A's, work experience, and maturity. It's a little narrow minded to exclude candidates simply because they attended an online school. Like other posters have said, online education is the wave of the future. As a matter of fact, this is the method used by many Japanese students. American students are just now finally getting the great opportunity and convenience of online education. Many "traditional" universities are offering online degrees. Educational institutions are recognizing that there is a hugh market in working professionals who want to finish their degree. As I am getting my degree at Ashford, I am also networking in my field, taking trade courses and honing my computer skills. This is what people who drive their future do when they want to succeed. And, I really think a recruiter who only "judges" a person by where he went to school is doing his employer a great disservice.
What is up with this school? March 27, 2008 at 6:49 p.m.
Alright with all this "stuff" about this school, I'm off to see finishing my degree with a local University. I know they have a lot of internet classes for adult students. Keep your fingers crossed for me~
This school, Ashford, was put together by UOP guys? Is there a real brick school? How is it accredited? If so, does it have to get reaccredited again soon, and if it doesn't does it just close?
Definitely have to do your research.
Too many scams on the net these days for me~ I'm through! I'm not signing up for this school. Just a couple of hours earlier I was filling out the enrollment application and thought I better take a look at what people are saying about this school.
Be Aware- of Joe March 28, 2008 at 12:11 a.m.
If you read Joe's posts, it will only make you dumber. Oh geez...it's happening already. I can knot evan spel anymor. Thankz a lot joE for spreeding your stoopidity on the word wid web.
Be-Aware-of-Amanda March 28, 2008 at 3:36 a.m.
Apparently she feels the need to use differing aliases to fool the readers. She can't even answer the simple question of which Psych field she is in.
amanda March 29, 2008 at 6:57 a.m.
I am sorry but I am not using a different alias, I was out of town on business, I tell you, the nerve of some people! I am gone for three days and you think I am using an alias, why would I, I have nothing to hide and I would never bash another under a hidden name, that is immature and stupid. This is too much drama for me, I have better things to do with my time, like real work and my school work!
Also i was not avoiding the question, I didn't even know there was a question for me until now!!!! I have been out of town people, good god, my life does not revolve around this forum!
And I am assuming that was you Joe, you probably thought I made that attack on you but I did not and if you read the bottom of this you will see I mention that you do bring up valid points and your posts are actually helpful in making people aware of what to expect when applying for jobs, I think it's great we got your opinions and your side, now people can be prepared when they come across HR people such as yourself who have had bad experiences and they can understand why they feel the way they do and hopefully prove them wrong
And syryn22, I may have taken what you said the wrong way towards me...but it sounds like you were agreeing with I said, yet it sounded like you were trying to make a point to me, shouldn't your comments have been directed towards some one else? I completely agree with what you said and that is what i have been arguing.
and while I do not necessarily agree with Joe he does bring up valid points, for example, it's the bottom line that when you have a degree form an online program you are going to have to prove to your future boss that you really worked at it and didn't just slide by, is that right or fair...no, but it's the truth. With people and their ways of thinking in the business world so while I don't agree with what he said, he does speak the truth about how potential employers will look at you and you need to know this and be prepared to deal with it.
and to answer your original question Joe, my PhD will be concentrating in perception, cognition, and development.
amanda March 29, 2008 at 7:03 a.m.
I would also like to say to whomever said be aware of joe, that this is a forum simply to discuss, debate, and review the pro's and con's of this school and of online schooling in general. Your post about Joe was both immature and inappropriate for the type of forum this is. If we can not keep it civil and impersonal then you shouldn't post. All joe is doing is showing the perception of some who have had bad experiences with employees with online degrees who were not really competent but got a degree anyways probably by sliding by and it happens everywhere, even in brick and mortar schools but when it's online, it's gets a bad rep. and we who are getting online degrees need to know this so we can make sure we bust our butts on our work and prove them wrong and also so we know how to handle this as we apply for jobs. Joe is doing us a service by providing his view points on this matter.
amanda March 29, 2008 at 7:05 a.m.
now, I just got in fro a long business trip, I plan on sleeping my weekend away, if I don't post it's not because I am avoiding or using any alias, I am simply tired and I of course feel a need to post this after my last attack. By the way, grow people! Are we not all adults here?
Juice March 29, 2008 at 3:36 p.m.
How can someone come to this site and ask if Ashford University is accredited or is a brick and mortar institution? How hard is it to go to Ashford's website or Wiki? Do not be lazy and please do some research before you come to this site. Yes, Ashford is a brick and mortar institution and is accredited by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools which is recognized by the United States Department of Education and Council for Higher Education Accreditation. Ashford also has athletic teams which compete in the NAIA which serves smaller four year schools and junior colleges. I played football at Stevens Tech which competed in the NAIA. This site is fraudulent because it lets anyone rate a school without having concrete knowledge. What a joke!
"Joe", The Intellectual Lamb of GOD April 1, 2008 at 6:46 p.m.
No, forgive me. I think he really thinks he is GOD. Get a GRIP, Mr. Over-Educated for the rest of the general public. I do agree with your philosophy on the importance of degree criteria in education. I happen to have a Phd. in Neuroscience and Bio Studies. My son is unable to continue his studies at Princeton University due to needed rehabilitation after being injured in a car crash involving an intoxicated driver. Forgive me if I am misled, but you seem as though you are here to insult others pursuing an education. Everyone will not receive an Ivy League education. Does this make them less intelligent? No. Although, my son will not attend Ashford, I took it upon myself to leave this comment after finding this site during our search. The point of an education is to contribute to society, not to disperse negativity and superiority upon society. My son will complete his MS from an online institution of the highest accreditation possible from a well known university, but this will not make him more or less important than the next student desiring to better themselves in any way they choose. My son is still a young man and has his entire life ahead of him. People, young or old, always investigate the credentials of an institution and the degree programs offered before enrolling. I stand behind Joe 100% regarding that issue, but remember there are many pathways to education. Always pursue an education based on your own personal needs and goals. No one holds the key to "Educational Superiority". This includes those hiring in "Corporate America". If an opportunity is meant for you, you will receive it with hope, prayers, hard work, and determination, regardless of the obstacles placed in your path.
USN O-6 (ret) April 3, 2008 at 1:06 a.m.
Like it or not, people like Joe are out there. I have run into many of them myself and you would do well to get the best respected education you can possibly attain. Going to college isn't something you do on a whim. It really matters where you go and what it can do for you to achieve your goals. If you want a top flight job you need to get a top flight education with top experience and the same goes on down the line till you're flipping burgers at Micky Ds. There are always exceptions but society has a rigid social structure that is defined in large part by your schooling. I had to fight tooth and nail to get the respect I deserved and I wouldn't have had to fight so hard if I had gone to a traditional high-ranking grad school. I get tired of having to prove myself but that will never end. I have been doing it my whole life and will until I quit working. I hope the elitist attitudes will fade but that is less likely than racism dying out. People will always have their prejudice so you better just get used to it.
Joe... you went to The Citadel, a fine school, but it is no better than the Naval Academy where I did my undergrad. I agree with what your saying actually, people like you are out there and your opinion is the majority but things are changing my friend. Online is becoming a more accepted median for education. I don't like the open enrollments or the Life Experience garbage just like you so we aren't that different in our views but you need to realize people who finish these programs are not just anybody that got in... they finished! Those schools with open enrollments have the worst graduation rates so you know those who are graduating didn't get a free ride (for the most part). There are some accredited diploma mills out there but I won't name any names.
Joe April 3, 2008 at 3:06 a.m.
Sorry Amanda, but it looks like we have an imposter in our midsts. My last entry was...
Joe March 25, 2008 at 8:11 a.m.
To the retired Captain, thank you for your service as I hope you would recognize mine. I did go to The Citadel and am proud of my education there. As a hiring manager I can ill afford to take the luxery of setting up interviews for hundreds of applicants. I have to take what catches my eye and run with it. I have researched the major online programs to find which are worthy of my review and which are not. That is actually a dual purpose of me frequenting this board. If you come to me with one of these degrees and have experience that catches my eye I will give you a shot.
To the pretentious neuro-scientist, I don't know where you get the notion I think I am god's gift to the intellectual community but you are mislead. I am a mid-level manager with a mid-level degree, I never claimed to be anything else unlike your PhD in Neurology and your son who went to Princeton. My condolensces for his disability and my prayers go with him to see him well. I get your point about getting the best education possible as that is my contention as well. I really don't see where you disagree with me. I'm not saying don't go to Ashford or UoP, I'm saying don't go there if you can go somewhere else because you are setting yourself up for discrimination that need not be if you can avoid it. The Captain echoes the point brilliantly.
paabell April 10, 2008 at 2:10 a.m.
Is AU recognized by them State of Florida education system?
Reply to- paabell April 22, 2008 at 12:22 a.m.
What exactly do you mean?
Joe April 24, 2008 at 8:10 a.m.
Yes, Ashford is recognized by the State of Florida. All schools that are regionally accredited are recognized by every state and nation on earth.
Angie April 24, 2008 at 10:33 p.m.
I just got off the phone with AU. I'm just applying to the school and trying to see if it's right for me. I was just told that b/c my husband is in the military that I get military benefits. They are
No Admin fees
and all my books are free and they ship them to me for free.
like I said, I’m just looking into it and finding out if its right for me but so far, the military benefits are wonderful. If you are military I would suggest that you ask about it, it can’t hurt any.
REALLY? April 25, 2008 at 2:52 a.m.
Joe,
What is wrong with you? If you have such a high profile job and are so busy and do such great things what are you doing on this board? I mean I read the whole board trying to figure out if this school is right for me and your post are one after another after another. Some of your post seem to show that you have function over the brain stem but other show that your just a hateful person. Using “BS” to describe anything is really unprofessional Your so negative and most of your post talks about how important you are and what you do for a living. I’m glad that you work for a 500 company but really, so do 1000 other people. Come on now, do you have that low of self a stem to come on to a posting board day after day to poke at other people. What are you trying to prove? That Ashford is a “BS” school. Good, Say it and get out. Don’t hang around the board like it’s MySpace and rebuttal everything. Get a life.
Confused..HELP!! April 25, 2008 at 4:15 a.m.
Does any one have a
Bachelor of Arts in Social Science w/ Education concentration?
What can you do with this degree? Do you have to go on to more schooling after getting this degree to become a teacher? Does this degree mean anything? All I can find on the website is that after you get it you go on to get you teaching degree? I’m so confused. I’ve been looking it up all night and I can’t find a straight answer.
Joe April 25, 2008 at 4:38 a.m.
Really, the only thing I said was BS was passing out Life Experience credit for people who only have to turn in a brochure for an event they never went to or make up a bogus Power Point presentation. Not only that, but Ashford gives up to 99 hours of tranfer and Life Experience credit. That is excessive and bordering on diploma mill tactics. BS may be an unprofessional phrase but I'm not on the clock.
The fact many people work at Fortune Global 500s is exactly why I brought up the experience. It is an example most people will be familiar with and can relate to because we are the largest employers in the nation and world. Giving people a first hand account of what to expect during hiring is exactly what people coming to review boards need. When it comes to online degrees the number one questions is "can I get a job with this degree?" I think people might appreciate getting an insiders view.
P.S. I have a life... thanks anyway!
Joe April 25, 2008 at 6:42 a.m.
@Confused...HELP!!
You are in the position most History majors are faced with upon graduation. Half of those go on to teach social studies while the others either go to law school or various other professions. You can go into: paralegal, marketing research, editing, grant writing, journalism, political campaigns, government research, historic societies, museums, non-profit organizations, library, archives or any number of fields that want liberal art degrees.
Can you teach with that degree... only if you have done student teaching and achieved certification. Ashford has you go on to Rio Salado College in partnership so you can become certified. If you want to become a teacher I would suggest finding an NCATE accredited college. I think WGU is the only online school to offer an NCATE degree. If you don't know what that is, it is the gold standard of education programs.
Judy April 25, 2008 at 3:11 p.m.
I don't understand why some people are dead set on attacking other people for finding a way to actually get their degree that works for them.
Not everybody has the luxury of time or finances to go to school fulltime and try to ear a living.
As a single mom working full time with 3 kids I found Ashford University an excellent source for my education. Not to mention their fees are NOT overinflated like UoP, and I didn't have to work in study groups and let other people affect my grade.
Since I graduated I got a new job and hit a higher payraise like I wanted, plus, added bonus - my new job allows me to spend more time with my kids.
Anyone who knocks on this University has personal issues to sort out.
Judy April 25, 2008 at 3:13 p.m.
Joe, do you by any chance work for UoP? I know that some UoP people have been known to try and bash Ashford because they are considered more quality then UoP...
Joe April 26, 2008 at 6:05 a.m.
I work in the defence industry.
venicia April 29, 2008 at 6:01 a.m.
I would like to know if anyone here has graduated from Ashford
I would also like to know if Joe did you ever attend Ashford?
From your post's it is clear you are very hostile toward this school and I wonder why? Certainly a young person would not have a great deal of experience but some people have done really impressive things in life and should have credit for that. Knowledge is power that is why most colleges accept CLEPS testing. Do you know that you can challenge almost any school by passing tests this is for really smart people Joe. Are you really smart ?
Joe April 29, 2008 at 11:40 a.m.
There is nothing wrong with CLEP tests. They are substantial tests that are adequate assessments for survey courses. They are not applied to upper level as that requires more application and critical inquiry. That is not something you can get out of DL. DL is fine for Gen Eds and survey courses but upper level work really needs to be handled with a guiding hand and application of materials. No DL should offer a BS degree. There is a reason people need to take labs.
Sarah April 30, 2008 at 2:01 a.m.
To Joe:
There are many people going to this website to read reviews from real people who actually went/or are currently enrolled at AU. I think you have made your point that you don't like it. Now after over two months of posting smart remarks to people to make yourself feel like the man you probably aren't....maybe it's time to get a life and stop coming on here! Hahaha seriously....find something more constructive to do with your time. All your doing is making a fool of yourself and proving you have no life! Now please....come back with a stupid comment! I couldn;t care less, as I won't be wasting my time coming back to the same sight again!
Joe May 1, 2008 at 1:51 p.m.
Who doesn't have a life? Your number has come up before. It isn't hard to read IP addresses through java script you know. That's something us ABET engineers CAN do.
"Hahaha seriously... find something more consructive to do with your time."
I'm cool surfing this site using the same name unlike you who changes aliases. If you don't want to be here then leave, I will do whatever I please. All you can do is launch ad hominem attacks while I sit and take it like the man I know that I am. You obviously have the identity crises.
Coursework May 5, 2008 at 8:51 p.m.
I wanted to know what sort of coursework is required for classes under the Universities Bachelors Program. Is it Paper Based or Exams also or what?
Lily May 10, 2008 at 11:36 p.m.
I think Uof A has the BS of social science with teaching.
Im looking at ashford and American public university because im a bit miffed at the masters program at another college mentioned here. its not the academic side but the financial counselor side that is ticking me off.
Get A Life. May 14, 2008 at 5:32 p.m.
This is to Joe. Don't you have a life? If you are so successful, wouldn't you be engrossed in your collegiate managerial affairs? Stop visiting the same post and other online post of other online universities trying (notice I used TRYING) to diminish the reputation of these accredited organizations. Yes, they are all accredited, Joe. Don't you have a degree? Why are you on the post? You have a job, so why don't you work or is your job being a nuisance and germ to the online community of the independently intelligent? Get an intelligent hobby, Joe. Posting comments constantly on a message board seems to be such an insult and waste of time to your supreme knowledge and intelligence. Many so called for profit schools are actual brick and mortar traditional institutions that happen to offer online degrees also. Yes audience, Ashford University is one of them. I'm 2 courses away from receiving my Masters and I thank Ashford for it all. I'm not telling others they must go to Ashford or anywhere else for that manner. Avoid individuals with a dictator characteristics and statements. It is your education and choice where you go. Do your research, and enjoy learning. Note, I'm a traditional Bachelor of Science student and my employer is very supportive about my degree that I will soon complete and has already discussed my promotion with me upon graduation.
Get A Life. May 14, 2008 at 5:36 p.m.
This is to Joe. Don't you have a life? If you are so successful, wouldn't you be engrossed in your collegiate managerial affairs? Stop visiting the same post and other online post of other online universities trying (notice I used TRYING) to diminish the reputation of these accredited organizations. Yes, they are all accredited, Joe. Don't you have a degree? Why are you on the post? You have a job, so why don't you work or is your job being a nuisance and germ to the online community of the independently intelligent? Get an intelligent hobby, Joe. Posting comments constantly on a message board seems to be such an insult and waste of time to your supreme knowledge and intelligence. Many so called for profit schools are actual brick and mortar traditional institutions that happen to offer online degrees also. Yes audience, Ashford University is one of them. I'm 2 courses away from receiving my Masters and I thank Ashford for it all. I'm not telling others they must go to Ashford or anywhere else for that manner. Avoid individuals with dictator characteristics and statements. It is your education and choice where you go. Do your research, and enjoy learning. Note, I'm a traditional Bachelor of Science student and my employer is very supportive about my degree that I will soon complete and has already discussed my promotion with me upon graduation.
Tony May 27, 2008 at 11:29 p.m.
Don't do it! I used to work for AU and would seriously warn anyone from taking classes/courses there! The staff are ALL about how many students are enrolled. In fact, you'll get fired if your numbers are off for a week! There is absolutly NO concern about enrolling the right students, or the students that will benefit from the program. Don't take my word, see for yourself, request more information and be harrassed about "getting the application in by the deadline" The deadline is always that week's Friday. Oh and the application fee? It's waived for this week only, if you apply now.
Be smart and don't go to this school!!!
vj May 28, 2008 at 12:45 p.m.
I am currently a student at Ashford University and absolutely love it. Yes, I did my research and noticed there were good comments and bad but that applies to anything you do in life. It is what you make of it. If you apply yourself, have goals, and work towards them, then it not only well worth it but it also obtainable. The staff at AU has been exceptionally helpful at all times and I would highly recommend this college to anyone. Granted, it is fast-paced and there is plenty of work to do but it is really up to the individual to do it. I was really amazed at the credits that AU will accept. I have an Associate's degree from a previous college and after the credits were transferred, it decreased my course completion by 2 years! I am VERY excited about that. So, I have nothing negative to say about the school. I am finally able to work towards my Bachelor's degree on my time rather than sitting in a classroom.
Joe May 29, 2008 at 5:29 a.m.
Well GAL, I happen to have a need to keep abreast of online programs as it is part of the HR aspect of my job. Recieving 99 credit hours for transfer of which 75 being Life Experience is absolute bunk. There isn't anyone who has refutted that succesfully, especially after I posted how easy it is to achieve it. Finishing a degree in as few as 12 months is an Ashford selling point... these are two signs of a diploma mill. Having open enrollment in the online portion is a third. Having no professional accreditation is a fourth. False advertisement by saying it is a top accredited university is the fifth. Ashford is at the absolute bottom of 4th tier schools and that isn't even rating the less afluent *scoff* online program. You can patronize me all you want but all you gain is my pitty for having wasted so much money on a degree that resembles so many other diploma mills on five different levels.
tsk tsk May 30, 2008 at 11:40 p.m.
Some of these comments are absurd. If you think AU is the only school with bad advisors, you've a lot to learn. /snicker
Terry June 3, 2008 at 11:30 p.m.
I am currently enrolled in my 4th Class at Ashford BA Business Management program and overall I have had a very good experience both academically and with their instructors and support staff. They took all 72 of my credits and with that I should be completing my degree sometime early in 2009. I couldn’t be more please. It is a bit tedious to feel like you have to procure your books from their bookstore but other then that its been fine. I am lucky enough to have a co-work taking the same classes as I am but a few weeks behind so we split the book cost. This has worked out great. I have also found some AU books used online so I do have options. After reading some review I will have to verify they are the best choice when pursing my Masters but so far so good. Good Luck
Ashford=Illegal degree June 5, 2008 at 7:14 a.m.
Ashford is a diploma mill! It is illegal to use this degree in 15 states!!
Juice June 6, 2008 at 3:49 a.m.
Hey S*it for Brains, Ashford University located in Clinton Iowa, with its College of External Studies located in San Diego, CA is regionally accredited, reconized by the department of education and the comission of higher learning. Ashford is not a diploma mill nor illegal. Get a life Numbnuts!!
To Joe June 6, 2008 at 3:32 p.m.
Your credibility is in rapid decline. It seems that your crusade against distance education is failing. Instead of spending so much time bashing DL schools and their students, why don’t you get on with the times? Adapt or perish. I will reiterate, your attitude would not get you far in an interview with me. No credential can make up for your lack of self steam. You would not survive outside the walls of your cubical. Your resume would get in my trash along with all the other junk- mail I get every day.
Merry June 7, 2008 at 2:33 a.m.
I have been attending Ashford since May 2007. My experience has been positive. Over the last 20 years I have over 120 units in "normal" college coursework, changed majors several times, and have 20 years of work experience, but no degree. I am thrilled to have found this opportunity to complete my degree online. Ashford transferred over 80 units and with attending full time since 07 I will complete my Bachelor's in September 08. My advisors have been satisfactory, classes differ with the instructors, but as the coursework progressed the classes became increasingly difficult. I have thoroughly enjoyed this experience and would encourage anyone who is self motivated and takes responsibility for their result to take online courses.
The one caveat is that online classes are definitely set up for adult learners who have work experience. I have seen situations where classmates don't appear to have any work experience and no knowledge of what their goals are in life... I think they must have a difficult time completing the coursework.
to Merry June 7, 2008 at 10:56 p.m.
Why did you not just finish your normal college degree with 120 units? That is only a CAPSTONE/Seminar away from graduation.
Content in Seattle... June 10, 2008 at 7:02 p.m.
Many of the comments here have no perspective. In the current situation that we face as a nation, I think that online education is finding its place in our society. I am a student at Ashford, in my 5th course and currently in the middle of my Junior year.
I am cynical, and was really quite apprehensive about how fast-paced the process was in getting enrolled. However, I have found that the education is similar to my coursework at brick and mortar schools which Ashford has been since 1918. I have attended the City College of San Francisco, Montana State and University of Mary; what Ashford offers isn't the same experience that I had at those instutions. What Ashford offers me is the ability to work, approach learning in a manner where I can be focused and get a degree.
A quick comment on ivy league schools, Joe. Yale graduated C student George W. Bush, look how good he's done. What I mean is that it's all relative, education is important whether done online, at a Junior college or University. Every school will have positive and negative experiences that happen on campus. If people cannot keep that in perspective I have to ask what are their expectations about life.
Most negative comments have nothing to do with the education experience only the experience with the administration of paperwork and financial aid.
Sally June 10, 2008 at 9:26 p.m.
Hi Joe, I've seen your postings on other websites as well. Is this your hobby?
Why do you hate Ashford so much?
Normal people don't go and post all day about a University they really don't know anything about........try focusing on your super cool job and less on something you know very little about!
Joe June 12, 2008 at 7:19 a.m.
Why are you so concerned with what I think? If you don't like what I have to say then ignore it. I must have hit a chord of truth it if bothers you so much.
Ashford=Illegal degree June 13, 2008 at 5:40 a.m.
Ashford is a diploma mill that hands out largely Life Experience degrees. BEWARE!!!
Joe June 13, 2008 at 9:53 p.m.
My so called "crusade" is against diploma mills. Ashford is not one as I stated on the CSU blog. Timed/quality proctored tests and a real faculty list keep it from being such. I'm not going to go so far as to say it is on par with a good state school but it is better than RA schools like UoP, Walden. I have said it before here and I will say it again. Ashford is good credential for those listed undergraduate degrees... I think those are a good investment, but an MBA without AACSB doesn't get much attention. Some of these degrees fit and some don't. People will have to decide for themselves. It isn't up to you to tell them who they should or shouldn't listen to. Just state your debate and move on rather than trolling after me with disparaging remarks. It only makes you look unobjective.
Joe June 14, 2008 at 5:25 a.m.
pffft...lol! Why would I state that on the CSU blog? That's what you get for a poor edit job on your copy and paste of my text. Ashford isn't even on par with CSU. Ashford offers far more and easily obtained Life Experience credits to ever be on the same level. CSU doesn't claim to get you a degree in as few as twelve months and also doesn't claim to be a top accredited university unlike the false advertising of Ashford. CSU offers emergency prep degrees that are hard to find and very valuable to the people who get them. Ashford offers Liberal Arts degrees which are the specialty of most of the schools out there. An Ashford BA won't hold a candle to the torrents of BAs from public schools flooding the job market. People graduating from Ashford will also have the added problem of lacking experience as most will be making career changes. Without relavent job experience and a useless degree from Ashford relavent degree job hunting will be a losing prospect.
Cindy June 18, 2008 at 7:13 a.m.
I am getting ready to enroll at Ashford. I have read all of the above comments, however, is there any thing else I need to be aware of other than the efforts on Joes part to inform me and any one else about the PLE stuff? It is rather interesting to me that his initial blog started way back in 2007 and has continued up to a few days ago. Joe must really be dedicated to his cause. It would also appear to me, that most of the complaining being done is against enrollment advisors. Is this true? How does a perspective student find out what is actually true or not? I keep reading that the student should be responsible for getting the right information, and doing their reasearch
Cindy June 18, 2008 at 7:25 a.m.
So if it is the responsibility of the perspective student to do the research and get the correct information, can someone please advise how to get that info? I agree that it is a perspective students responsibility to be completely informed as much as possible, by checking out other schools and interviewing those you talk to on the phone, however, how exactly do I find out if the financial info is true or not? I have also read so much from both sides about the things a new student is told in the beginning about financial aid, fees, vouchers, etc. Can somone please offer a little insight to all this. I guess my next question is, should one wait to start their program until all their ducks are in a row, and not get eager to start until the finacial aid stuff is approved?
Joe June 18, 2008 at 11:06 p.m.
This Joe didn't come here until late Feb. of this year. I was looking for an online doctorate in business because my life is too busy to attend classes. I have since found it a good place to explore the values of online education and apply that to hiring in my company. I'm glad you are aware of the PLE stuff and hope you notice Ashford makes false claims as being a "top accredited school" when they are actually an absolute bottom accredited school. I also hope you bothered to read the reviews that give this school a failing grade. If you don't want someone messing up your financial aid take heed.
How do you know they are going to screw it up? Read other people's experiences. This financial aid department is a disaster.
Cindy June 19, 2008 at 6:14 a.m.
So how is it that Ashford messes up financial aid? I would appreciate some more info regarding that, as financial aid is so very important?
Joe June 19, 2008 at 10:16 a.m.
If you read the reviews you will see they don't reimburse unused loans right away making them eat higher payments. They don't communicate with the students until they have a problem with their monies. If you have a problem they won't get back to you. They screwed up someone's FAFSA and ended up charging them the whole lot. Many people complain of the $990 technology fee that they sneak in there. $990 for a technology fee?!?
JD June 19, 2008 at 10:10 p.m.
couple things: Joe, there are no 100% online PHD programs, they simply do not exist yet. Move on dude. When you compare an online school to a traditional campus program the fees are the same. $990 is a small tech fee considering many ground schools require thousands in fees, they are just paid out each semester vs. a lump sum. In regards to communication with advisers: when I first went to college back in 1998 I remember I would have to make a confirmed appointment with my adviser or visit them during office hours, many times standing in line with the rest of the students. This also only occurred once a semester when I was building my schedule. Since the academic advisers build the schedule for me I don't have to worry about having too much communication with them. I'm really not interested in having someone hold my hand through my degree. College is what you make it guys, so make it good.
Ron June 20, 2008 at 1:51 a.m.
I cannot believe the previous negative reviews. It seems as though a case of "me against the world". People lets not blame others for our failures and lack of motivation. There is a reason that the online program only takes those over 21 years of age. It is an attempt to separate those that are immature and unsure of what they really want. Ashford has helped me throughout my career. The classes that I have taken have real world results and they are easy to relate to everyday life. A student wanting to go to school online must be self-motivated because there is the absence of a physical teacher to "hold your hand" and make sure the work is completed. Online classes are definitely not for everyone.
Joe June 20, 2008 at 4:58 p.m.
@ Ron... the complaints are about the lack of services for the most part with a particular emphasis on financial aid. It doesn't have anything to do with people not being able to cut it.
@JD... A "100% online PhD" has nothing to do with anything. Perhaps you should move on partner as you are way off base. The $990 tech fee is charged even if you drop the first class. Regular universities only apply the tech fee per class. That is where people get upset as they should.
Hans June 20, 2008 at 7:32 p.m.
I tried really hard to read all the posts here... the whole thing made my stomach queasy and my head spin. UGH.
I very much liked what one poster said about resumes and life and college... (paraphrasing from memory) there are dumb people with high class credentials and there are low class people from crappy schools who are brilliant. It runs the gamut.
What really completely sickens me is the horrible focus on paper and resumes as if that could POSSIBLY encompass the totality of a human beings experience, soul and spirit. This is why America pretty much just grosses me out.
I question wanting to spend my life and expend MY soul and body working for companies OR people who are so small minded, mean spirited and petty as to judge people based on what school you attend.
Try going to the Amazonian rain forest and approaching a tribal chief with your resume. Our country is so completely focused on "business" and profit making and GREED that it makes me ill.
While I realize that's the way things may "be", just because things ARE a certain way and the majority follow one another doesn't mean it's correct or appropriate. I seek true wisdom - NOT just book larnin' and material and social validation. I long ago determined that I had no desire whatever to be just like other people or to win any popularity contests, nor have I any desire whatsoever to give up my mind and spirit to be chained to some corporation and spout inane drivel just to fit in and be accepted. Yech.
I'll make my OWN choices and if they don't involve having a mortgage, paying off a colossal loan and credit card debt, driving an Aston-Martin and wearing fancy Italian calf skin loafers with tassels and prancing around like my s**t doesn't stink, then so much the better.
Life experience most certainly DOES count, as does scholastic acumen. What is readily apparent is that there are no simple or easy answers, but there are many many roads to Rome. I will follow my heart and keep my own counsel. Thank you and "go get 'em", wherever you get it! :)
To Hans June 21, 2008 at 7:32 a.m.
I would suggest you go to Rochville U. They have the perfect degree for you.
JD June 23, 2008 at 6:30 p.m.
hey Joe,
What's the point of starting school if you are going to drop out of your first class? As far as I know, financial Aid (loans or grants) will not cover withdrawals or failures. and every school will still charge you its fees.
Joe June 24, 2008 at 6:18 a.m.
At most online universities the tech fee is only applied to each class. If you drop out of the first you are only responsible for the first tech fee. Not a dozen of them. It is a complete jack and shows us that Ashford's true motivation is making a profit... not education.
Correction June 24, 2008 at 1:09 p.m.
"JD June 19, 2008 at 10:10 p.m.
couple things: Joe, there are no 100% online PHD programs"
There are many. Check into NorthCentral University, Capella, University of Phoenix, Walden, Nova Southeastern, etc.
get it right! June 25, 2008 at 1:20 a.m.
wow so many comments about Ashford. All I wanted to see is what students thought. I work at AU and absolutely love enrolling students into our programs. I guarantee you I work 40 hours + per week to make sure each and every student is ready for class. If any of you want more information on anything just feel free to go to www.ashford.edu and request more info.
Liz Scott June 25, 2008 at 11:55 a.m.
I posted comments in this forum several months ago when I first started at Ashford. I can tell you from real life experience that Ashford has proven to be better than I thought. I was already enrolled for 2 weeks when I stumbled upon this sight back in 11/2007. Being that I was already enrolled I was quite terrified that maybe I had made a mistake. I've been an A student in the Honor Society all my life and I was worried this program wasn't going to challenge me academically. I'm here to tell you, once that first course is over, the educational aspects take a turn from "That was easy" to "Professor, can I please have an extention on my research paper?" I mean, you may not be sitting in a classroom, but they make up for it by dishing out 8-10 research papers every 4 weeks. The second week of class has some sort of essay requirement for every class which is usually 4 pages. I remember when I first started, there were several students in the course where you could definiatly tell that English was a second language. You could also see in the Introduction how in the beginning of the class there were 30(or however many) people enrolled in the course. As the course progressed, that number would decline as the course content became increasingly complicated. At the end of the course, there would be maybe 18-20 students who didn't drop the course because of the content. I only had 8 tranfer credits from the University of Houston when I started at Ashford so basically I was starting from scratch. I'm by no means unsatisfied with my Ashford education as I know I have been challenged intellectually(which I demand from a college). I'm not sure if it's my course sequencing that had provided me with such an outstanding experience or is it the intense research I'm doing to keep my GPA higher than 3.75, but what I want to say is anyone who truly received a 4.0 at this college-my hats off to you! I'm in my seventh course and I will be very proud of my degree. Also, I'm an RN trying to familiarize myself with the health care administration aspects of the medical field. Note to site owner: This site does not offer review for the BAHCA degree I'm pursuing-just wondering if it can be updated. Thank you for your time.
David Smyth June 30, 2008 at 11:50 p.m.
Ok guys and girls. This question is for the people out there who really do not need a degree because they are satisfied with their job, make good money and just feel like a degree will not help them in their career.... (I happen to be one of these people).... But. Like me, want a degree for the in case something happens in their current job, they can have something to fall back on.
Is Ashford right for me... Is it easy enough for me to attend and still focus 100% of my time on work and leisure.
KiJo July 2, 2008 at 6:46 a.m.
I am baffled by the negative feedback about Ashford. Not once have I had a problem with communication with Ashford. Yes, I am independent as a person, including the work I do. I don't desire or need a lot of hand holding. In high school, I was an A student in Honors and AP courses. I decided to take a different path. I had my children young and now they are a bit older, I can now finish school. I work a full time job which does not leave me much free time to go to school full time. I am now an A student at Ashford. Not because I am sliding by. The work is challenging (thankfully so), but I manage to pick myself up and turn in the assignments on time. I am in my sixth class and I have enjoyed the experience thus far. I was fully aware of the costs associated with obtaining a degree from Ashford. I have no issues with my financial aid, and I get quick responses from my advisors. When I call tech support, for the most part, they are helpful. Again - I am independent, so I typically figure things out on my own. I work in an enviroment when emails are the best form of contact - so what do I do? I email the advisors. I keep my emails short and sweet.
The professors are great and they do not just hand out good grades. There is a section in our online platform that allows us to see the running grade average. Many times, the average grade for an assignment is mid to low. The professors express their expectations explicitly. There are times when I am like, "wow, this is more than what I expected!" But then I am grateful for the challenge.
For all of you self righteous people who have SOOOO much to say about a person's CHOICE in education, please sit down and be quiet. We get it. Ashford or any other accelerated education program is not good enough in your precious eyes. Good for you. I take it you have a degree from an ivy? Say, Harvard? Oh, let me guess...Princeton. Well, let me tell you something. I don't really need this degree. I make 75k a year w/out a degree. When I get my degree, I will be making six figures. Some of us do go to school to broaden our horizons, expanding our minds.Ashford does that for me quite well.
I have attended other universities, and Ashford works for me best. Nothing wrong with that. What's even better is I am not really concerned about employers quivering over my Ashford University Degree, because there is something special about ME. I have many years of experience in the line of work that I do and coupled with my degree, I am a desirable candidate.
I went into this experience, eyes open. Please don't blame the advisors, or the tuition costs, or my dog ate it. They all sound like a bunch of excuses, sore losers and complainers. Stop being a victim. Take ownership in the fact that you failed to read the fine print. You failed to ask the right questions. You failed to exert the effort needed to succeed. Suck up and buck up.
hahaha July 2, 2008 at 10:06 a.m.
Another perfect 4.0 from Ashford. Why are we not surprised. You wouldn't know what the grade ranges are online because it is against FERPA for a professor to tell other people's grades. Every GPA coming out of Ashford is inflated. Do you know how hard it is to keep a 4.0 in REAL schools? Do you know how many 4.0s Ashford is pumping out... it is a degree mill with LIFE EXPERIENCE degrees. People complain because they have experienced poor service, poor academics, and a worthless degree for a heavy price. Avoid Ashford at all costs!
Jack A July 4, 2008 at 1:33 p.m.
I contacted Ashford about PLA credit and it is ridiculous what they will accept. Since they are so liberal with life experience how can I say no? I know the degree isn't respected but I just need a cheap RA degree on top of my DETC degree to get my applications reviewed by grad schools requiring RA degrees. I did get a laugh when I googled the school and it said "Top accredited online degrees."
More to follow...
Ashford=Illegal degree July 5, 2008 at 11:28 p.m.
Ashford is a diploma mill and is illegal to use in 15 states. Avoid this degree mill at ALL COSTS!!!
Dr. Matthews July 9, 2008 at 7:07 p.m.
Notice to all:
First, I would like to say that I am a tenured professor and program director of an allied health program, so you can be assured that I have some knowledge of what I am about to say.
Next, I have amusingly read through all these post because I have an applicant for an instructor position that has a MA from AU.
Next, sorry folks but "Joe" is correct. You all will believe what you want but the fact remains: AU is a 4th tier school without any programmatic accreditation in the professional programs. THIS DOES MATTER. AU does have regional institutional accreditation but lacks specific program creds.
Next, life experience credit is whole heartidly frowned on. Try to transfer in a "book of the month discussion" in to a state university and watch hilarity insue.
Next, AU has problems. I have checked with proper agencies and the schools has many complaints. From a educational leader point of view: these problems should have been fixed long ago to ensure quality education, but for some strange reason they continue.
Finally, Folks do yourself a favor and research before you buy. Dont be fooled by the admit. 'reps' and dreams of easy quick education. Choose your education wisly. And those of you taking shots at Joe, I have noticed that Joe has been honest, strait-forward, and respectful. He is telling you from an HR point of view the reality of choosing this type of education. Instead of scoffing and insulting him, listen to his advice and wisdom. Good luck to all of you.
coo coo July 16, 2008 at 11:39 p.m.
joe = Dr. Matthews = all the negative postings
btw it's "straightforward" not "strait-forward"
tenured professor NOT!
J. August 6, 2008 at 4:08 p.m.
This school accrediated,legal and offers degrees, so I attended. AU lost their MAT teacher certification license and many want to be teachers failed their student teacher course or phase, because they did not know anything! Nothing! My experience was embarrassing and a few other peers experienced the same. Save your money and go to a real school.
Pending Grad August 7, 2008 at 9:17 p.m.
I just finished my last class and will be getting my BA in Organizational Management. I was skeptical about Ashford at first when I contacted them for info. The advisor was persistent but friendly and did try to answer all my questions. I also compared a handful of other online schools and this seemed the best price-wise and scheduling. Each class is five weeks and goes quickly. Also, I had over 100 credits from many years ago and wasn't sure if they were going to transfer or not. My pre-enrollment evaluation made it look like I would have to take 12 classes...when they did the final official evaluation, I only had to take 8 classes, which is the absolute minimum. I was thrilled. The Blackboard online system was fairly easy to use. Ordering books was easy. Financial aid was easy (they guided me step by step). Occasionally I had trouble getting in touch with some staff or teachers, but it wasn't too bad in that regard. Some staff were very helpful. The coursework WAS difficult. Lots of writing involved. It is NOT easy to get A's, trust me. I have busted my butt over the last 11 months. I'm in the boat of people who have a decent paying job but still want a degree for "backup insurance". I am happy with my decision.
Dr. Matthews August 22, 2008 at 9:21 p.m.
Coo Coo,
You may believe what ever you like, that is your God given right. The fact is Joe and I are not the same person. I only know of him from reading this forum.
I had an applicant for a faculty position in my healthcare program, who has an MA from AU. I have to ensure that if I hire somebody for a teaching position their credentials and education are solid. BTW: I did not hire him because of the lack of accreditation of his masters degree. There you have it.
I believe as an educator and education program director, that everybody should be well informed about the education they choose. If you believe I am a professor or not, i really don't care. I do not seek approval from some know it all who hides behind a forum
I want you all to understand something: I am not telling you AU is bad or dont go, they are an accred. university and I am sure they have many wonderful characteristics.
What i am saying is: (Fact)
-AU lacks programmatic accreditation
-AU is 4th tier
-Life exeperiance for credit is academically frowned on in most cases.
-AU has many formal complaints against them
-AU masters admissions standards are non-existant
BTW: sorry for the typo yes I did mispell the word staight, thanks for pointing that out on an informal forum.
C.L.Matthews,PhD
Hmmmm August 27, 2008 at 5:01 a.m.
Dr Matthews = SMELLS LIKE A QUACK! I highly doubt you are a real Professor.
Hmmmmm August 27, 2008 at 5:10 a.m.
This is proof that Dr Matthews is full of BS and is really a fake wanna be professor. This quote was taken from his posting above "If you believe I am a professor or not, i really don't care."
Your a fake!
Experienced August 30, 2008 at 5:11 a.m.
Once you have applied to the online program, they don't care about you. Very bad enrollment process.
Rain August 31, 2008 at 11:10 p.m.
What is going on with these people saying that community colleges have classes for $14 or $20 per credit??
My community college charges $160/credit. Get real people, college is expensive.
Dr. Matthews September 3, 2008 at 6:30 p.m.
To the basher who would rather attack me personally, than to discuss the pros and cons of non-traditional education at AU.,
Sir, I have seen your kind for many years. Sometimes a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You have a small idea of what you are talking about, but you believe that you are absolutly correct. Anybody who disagrees with your 'truth', you can only blast them personally, because this is what small narrow minded people tend to do. I doupt you have achieved any type of higher education, maybe a few hours here and there. Yet you seem to have all the answers. Your ignorance is apparent.
If you were a person with a higher education, you would understand that the more you learn the more you realize how important peer collaboration, reproducability, and endless debate/reserch are to get to the ultimate truth. In academia, we constantly challenge current knowledege.
In regards to AU. If you have done your homework and you are convinced that the program you seek will advance your pursuits and achieve your goals, then I say go for it. However, you should arrive at this decision only after you are abolutly sure. If you are trying to sell yourself on dream that a college like AU is on par with a typical state university, you are living in denial. Also, ask yourself how does earning this degree increase my worth to others. I did not hire an applicant from AU because his masters was not programmatically accredited. In other words, his credentials lacked 'worth'. But I am a academic and we are much harder on this than any other industry, so he may do very well some place else.
C.Matthews, PhD
P. E. Scott September 12, 2008 at 6:37 p.m.
This college is wonderful, and I love it. To know something about this college, you would have had to attend it. The people who have left bad remarks about this college, are mostly drop-outs who are angry with the administrative staff. They are angry because they thought they would get the money from their student loan-if they droped out. When they found out how many fees dropping out cost them, they became angry with this university and began bashing them. This school is accredited and State colleges like the University of Texas, accept their transfer credits. I have already looked into it, so basically the people that are out to get Ashford are just posers. Get a life and find something else to be angry at--your the one who dropped out!
What a joke September 15, 2008 at 5:26 a.m.
To PE Scott, it must irk you something terrible to think that we know this school is a disaster. We didn't drop out because we couldn't cut it or tried to rip-off student loans. We left because it was an aweful joke of an institution. If you felt it was a great school you wouldn't bother looking to transfer. You just defeated your own argument.
Peace
Hmmmm September 16, 2008 at 5:25 a.m.
More proof that Dr Matthews is far from being a teacher of academics. His quote from the last posting was "But I am a academic and we are much harder on this than any other industry, so he may do very well some place else."
Next time try "But I am an academic"
Not "But I am a academic"
Come on now, your are a total fake. I hope that you are teaching your students to proof read their documents before they turn them into you for grading.
More Proof Please!
Dr. Matthews September 26, 2008 at 7:58 p.m.
HMMMMM,
Perhaps you are correct. Maybe I should proof my informal posts. You seem real focused on attacking me for it. I am not sure why, but for you I will try to keep the grammer errors to a minimum.
What about you? You seem to know everything and you appear to be very defensive of this wonderful intitution. What is your interest here. Are you an admissions rep? Did you attend the school? What is your level education?
If you know something that could benefit future students, please share it with the forum. I mean after all, isn't this the purpose of this forum. Instead of you just being negative and attacking those who are skeptical of AU, enlighten us on why AU is soooo wonderful. I am intersted to know.
The only thing that I ever tried to convey to this forum, is that AU lacked the appropiate programmatic accreditation for a particular masters degree (MBA). I could not hire a particular graduate from this program for a faculty position because of this. I wanted to share this with anyone thinking of attending this school. I believe it is important for people to understand that this maybe a factor for them. Please correct me if I am wrong.
BTW: Hmmmm, your lasts couple of posts have made you come off as a real idiot. Someone who has nothing productive to say. I think that it is obvious that you dont really know anything. My guess is that you are a scum bag admissions rep.
CLM
PS: Go f#@$ your mother.
Hmmmm September 27, 2008 at 2:23 a.m.
@ Dr. Matthews
Here is more proof that you are soooooo not an academic.
Your Quote " The only thing that I ever tried to convey to this forum, is that AU lacked the appropiate programmatic accreditation for a particular masters degree (MBA)."
Do you know how to spell appropriate or what? Guess not.
Your Quote "PS: Go f#@$ your mother" Sooooo not academic.
Fact: I graduated from a Division I university.Go Wolfpack!
Fact: I could care less about Ashford University because they are not a Division I school and I would never attend this university
Fact: You can post on another board and if I found out about it, I would call you out as a fake on there also.
Fact: You are a legend in your own mind wanting everyone to believe that you are Dr. and an element of the academic world.
Quack Quack Quack
GoodSamaritan September 29, 2008 at 5:32 a.m.
Do NOT waste your money on Ashford!
I am a former employee of Ashford University...A former "enrollment advisor" if you will. I can tell you right now from looking at some of these generic responses that they are most likely written by employees of AU as they are quoting verbatim much of the propaganda we spent two weeks in training memorizing.
First and foremost, most enrollment advisors have less education than the returning students considering AU. The vast majority of them are teenagers or burnouts. They work from cubicles in a call center and are given daily/weekly/monthly enrollment goals just like telemarketers. They are advised to call people daily and will continue to call you for months.
Yes, Ashford's degree programs are accredited. That doesn't mean the degrees are useful. Compare the names of their programs to those offered by larger, more reputable schools and you'll quickly notice how vague and unvaried AU's offerings are. The individual courses are no different. I can't tell you how many calls I took from AU students who were outraged to find out that bigger, better schools would not accept their AU credits or that employers scoffed at their generic degrees.
Commenters that are praising their devoted enrollment advisors are also clearly employees because after your first month as an AU student you will never speak to your original advisor again. You are then passed on to a new advisor whose job it is to get the most money out of you with the least amount of personal attention. Very few of these people even have college degrees. Heck, even some of the professors only have "honorary" degrees.
I'm only skimming the surface of the corruption at Ashford University with this post. The sad thing is that they feed their lower employees the same BS they feed the students. In either situation, it doesn't take long to see the truth. Only the unethical and unsentimental "advisors" can stand doing this job. Unfortunately for AU students, by the time they've realized the school is a sham AU's already gotten its claws into their financial aid.
Take it from me--if you want a good education, then you're better off somewhere else.
Dr. Matthews September 29, 2008 at 4:31 p.m.
Hmmmm,
How does it feel being an admissions rep for a 5th tier school?
Besides, didn't I tell you to go fuk your mother.
V. Reynauld September 30, 2008 at 6:05 a.m.
Forget Ashford...
I'm not even STARTED the process yet and I've told them to forget it. I've had three different advisers give me three different answers about "concentrations". Each of them told me what I presumably wanted to hear, but they were all contradictory.
They were generous enough to "waive" my application fee, and that started my long, tedious affair with financial aid. They never added me to their "system" so I could log in and get the documents I needed. Four days later, I called and they told me I didn't fill out the information in the 72 hour period, so I'd have to start all over again. It's been 5 days since that and I'M STILL NOT IN THEIR "SYSTEM".
I'm calling them tomorrow and telling them to forget it. This school is complete hassle and they can't even give a straight answer on their programs.
Hmmmm October 1, 2008 at 1:14 a.m.
@ Dr. Matthews
You are still a fake. I can assure you that I don't work for Ashford University. You don't see me defending this school in any way at all. I told you in my last post that I would never attend a school like Ashford because they are not a Division I university. I can honestly say that there are too many traditional universities that offer online or distance education and anyone in there right mind should consider that instead of attending a school like Ashford, which has no rankings at all. However, that still does not change the fact that you are fake. You are not a real Dr. or someone who has obtained a collegiate level education. That is the bottom line here. Your postings are proof of that. You are living a cyberspace fantasy if you think that you can come on here and convince people that you are some sort of teacher of higher education. What you need to do is turn the computer off in your mom's basement and pull your underwear up; You fake wannabe!
PS: Go Wolfpack!
Dr.Mathews October 2, 2008 at 7:02 p.m.
HMMMMM,
For someone who cares nothing for Ashford you seem to moniter this forum quite frequently.
I have BS from Sam Houston State University, a MS and PH.D from the Unversity of Texas. I also hold a post doctorate diplomat. I am an associate professor and program director for a healthcare program at a university in the south, with consortium outreach programs in seven states, Mexico and Spain.
You are the poser here. You are an uneducated admissions rep for Ashford, which is about on par with a car salesman. We all see through your little ruse. You are not fooling anybody with your 'I care nothing for Ashford but I will defend them' rap.
So go ahead, again remind everybody that I am such fake. Thats all you can keep saying over and over. Fake, fake, fake. Typical admissions rep trying to plug holes.
I have grown weary of you and this exchange.
Hmmmm October 5, 2008 at 9:08 a.m.
@ Dr. Matthews
I noticed that in your last posting, you even spelled your name wrong. Come on now Sir! There is also more proof that you are fake. Your quotes below are proof positive.
"For someone who cares nothing for Ashford you seem to moniter this forum quite frequently"
How do you spell monitor Sir? Certainly not moniter.
"I have BS from Sam Houston State University, a MS and PH.D from the Unversity of Texas." = bad grammar and spelling Sir. You left out the "a" in front of BS and you misspelled University. You are certainly not an element of the academic industry.
Now, I want you to quote any of my postings where I have said anything to defend Ashford University. I have not had one good thing to say about this school. Please show everyone where I have said anything good in an effort to defend this school. You can't, simply because I have not.The bottom line here is that I am pointing out the fact that you are a fake and certainly not a person who has the education that you are claiming. Sam Houston State University and the Universtiy of Texas are excellent institutions. Stop using those universities in your behalf. You are making them look bad on here. Didn't I give you some advice at the end of my last posting? I guess your underwear are still around your ankles.
Go Wolfpack!
E-Rod October 19, 2008 at 8:11 a.m.
Hello all i just finish reading all post comments and i don't think anyone is honestly wrong,I just think it those not work for everyone not going to lie at first at Ashford i was lost who would not be it was my first time doing anything with college especially online. When ever i had questions my advisor would assist me to her best in helping me with finding my answer and being able to understand it correctly.I enrolled in Febuary 2008 so far so good a couple of bumps but that was on my part. For financial Aid i receive one check small amount in March and i was told $600 one on it's way and i was awarded 13,000 once there is left over balance it would be send to me via mail if i have a problem i will just call them. Amizon is one site to buy use books at if you don't want to spend the money on a New book we got options it about knowing how to go about it. No school and no person is perfect and yea if i would had went through what most people say they did i would be piss and take a trip to the school with a Lawyer but so far so good. I hope dose who had a bad experience can get the proper help t assist them within it because no one likes to be toyed with when it comes to money and wasting time. The other hand congrats to those that made it and graduated or who just enrolled. Thanks, E-Rod Bronx, ny the big apple that never sleep.
Don't have one to give October 19, 2008 at 12:53 p.m.
In reponse to it's been a nightmare,
get yourself a lawyer They will stop the Collection calls. a cheap way to go is through paid legal services.
AU knows what they are doing. The people who are interested in going to AU (MOST)do ask the right questions AU advisors just give people false information. They have been train to do just that. And that's deceiving for anyone who really wants to finish school. Save all of your work and Correspondence from anyone who works at AU make sure you have names and dates and time. Always keep because this will come in handy. If you have to take them to court!!! But don't pay if you know they did you wrong.
This is for:
it's been a nightmare January 22, 2008 at 7:15 p.m.
I hope everything is better for you I know this can be very
emotional.
Jennifer October 21, 2008 at 9:45 p.m.
I must say I am disturbed by some of the things that I have read in this forum. That is actually putting in mildly. I have had trouble with Ashford in regards to financial aid and them telling me that I don't qualify for the most recent "package" I was awarded due to being on a break for over 6 months. I am not a financial aid wiz by any means, but I have been in college before and know that the money granted to me for this semester was granted because I DID/DO qualify. So...now I have yet another $5,000 sitting at Ashford that I will have to pay back and not be able to use. When I took a break from classes they claimed to have sent my unused money back to the financial institution. I believed them, until recently. Upon reading all of this I am enraged and unsure of the best way to proceed from here!
All I wanted to do was better the lives of my children through higher education and now I feel as if I have been screwed!
Cindy October 22, 2008 at 11:40 p.m.
Jennifer, all I can say is "good luck". Hire yourself a lawyer, that's what I am doing. Here is the latest. Just, to let you know I have been attending Ashford's online program for over 2 years. The financial aid award letter was sent to me on July 22, 2008. Fed. Unsubsidized Staffard and Federal Subsidized loans and Pell grant to be disbursed to my account on October 7, 2008, which they were. Award letter states that if any excess funds remain on your account, a refund check will be mailed to you approximately 14 days after the funds have been disbursed. So, I was expecting a check after the 14 days as the award letter states on approximately October 21, 2008. On October 13, myself and who knows how many other Ashford students receive an email from Ashford that they have implemented a new policy. You will now receive your money 7 weeks after your disbursement for 30% and 70% of the balance 14 weeks after that. The financial advisor tells me the cut-off date for this was October 6, 2008. How convenient for them. We are not talking a couple of hundred dollars here. This was a substantial amount of money, that I use to pay bills and rent so I am able to attend college. I would love to here from lawyers, other students on this. Please, please look into other colleges. This isn't the first time that I have had trouble with financial aid with Ashford University. I believe the process is quite simple. You apply for aid, you receive an award letter, you disburse remaining funds 14 days after your funds go into your account. Any other financial aid "horror stories" from Ashford University. One other question, once these funds are in your account from Stafford and Pell grants are they in a bank for Ashford University?
LB October 22, 2008 at 11:53 p.m.
I have enrolled at Ashford, I am about to start my 3rd class there. The first instructor I had was great, the second...not so much. My biggest complaint is that I was awarded financial aid and they have pretty much stole it from me. I am a veteran and I receive TA, which pays for my schooling 100% from the Army. Ashford told me that they are holding 1500 of my financial aid for my next 2 classes, even though they have been paid in full for my courses taken and are guaranteed to get a check from the Army for any future ones. Then they told me that they are holding 70% of my financial aid until the 14th week of class. So out of 5000, they issued me a check for 260.00. Their reasoning is becaue they changed their policies....not my problem, not their money. No-one there seems to have any answers to anything, and if you dare to ever speak with a supervisor, they are "in a meeting". They must have a lot of meetings. I have contacted the US Deptartment of Education in regards to getting my financial aid, as well as a lawyer. These weren't the terms that I agreed upon when enrolling and I expect Ashford to live up to their end. I fully intend to go as far with this as I need to, just on moral alone. I have taken classes at another University and never had these kinds of problems getting my financial aid. Ashford cut a lot of military business as my TA Rep for the Army is sending a mass email to her other reps describing the problems that I have had with getting my financial aid...not too good for Ashford.
LB October 24, 2008 at 4:39 a.m.
To: Cindy
Of course these funds are in a bank for Ashford, they are making some big fat interest off of the student body's awards. I called today and asked about the 6th being a cut off and the person I spoke with said "there was no cut off". I was probably told that because my financial aid got in Oct. 1st. Of course this information didn't come from my financial advisor JW, she hasn't bothered to return any of my numerous calls. The simple fact of the matter is that there is no reason other than the fact that they are wanting to collect interest off the money that is due to the students. If you do the math on how many students and an average of financial aid per student, it is a lot of money. Given the fact that they are holding it for 14 weeks, that is over 3 months of interest for them. Cha ching! My family and I were counting on these funds to help with our costs of living as well, I have 4 kids to support while I am trying to further my education. I understand your frustration, I am feeling it as well. I have never seen a University ran this way and I think that the students need to stand up for themselves. I have already spoken with a very good lawyer, he gave me some great phone numbers to get me in touch with the right people in Iowa that can help me. Let me know if you would like the numbers as well, I am more than happy to share them!
Joe October 26, 2008 at 2:42 a.m.
Wow... more financial aid problems. Like we never saw that coming. If Ashford has 'screwed' you out of your financial aid please go to the BBB and file a complaint. If they take longer than 14 days please do so as well. It is against the law for them to hold on to your money.
For those who called me Dr. Mathews please don't flatter yourself. I don't know of any PhDs that tell your mothers to go **** themselves and neither would I belittle myself to that point.
Sherry October 28, 2008 at 7:31 a.m.
I am in my second class at AU and recently have started my developing some doubts about my decision to attend here. Granted, I'm only in week two, the instructors don't seem to be professional or organized. The grading system seems to be a little "off." Students are getting full points for discussion posts that aren't written clearly, correctly, or precisely covering all points specified. I haven't had any trouble with financial aid or anything else people have mentioned, I just don't feel like I can really get a 50 thousand dollar education here. Hopefully the classes will become more involved, as I am in level 100 classes for the first year, and those are kinda lame. But, in the meantime, if there's someone who reads this and is working toward a BA in Psychology from AU, and are past your first year, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Also, why is so many people talking about accelerated degrees? I was told it was a four year degree program..
Josh October 29, 2008 at 10:53 p.m.
I am currently taking classes online through Ashford University, and I see multiple bad reviews for Ashford. I am going to explain one thing to the many of you that have been 'cheated' or had 'bad' experiences with them. If you take a close look through many of the online colleges, they have to be accrediated, right? Ashford is accrediated. Look through the big, thick books that are at a library with colleges in them, Ashford is listed. Unlike other multiple colleges, they don't have an actual campus. Since they are online, they do have standards they still have to meet like a tradition college: the basic courses, core courses, regional or national requirements (recommended any college have regional). Before many of you that have given bad reviews for the college, you should have studied about distant learning prior to going there. Yes, of course the courses are short and 'accelerated', but the purpose is to focus one subject at a time, and compact the same things as a traditional college. I know this cause I have my associates through a normal college, and Ashford's base is relativly the same. So, if you think that Ashford is a bad college, reconsider it, or waist your money by trying a different school to get a feel for online schools. *yes the first classes are cheesy, but they are introductory courses so they will be kinda cheesy, but they do get harder*
LS November 1, 2008 at 1:45 p.m.
My current class has 18 students. The lower level classes may have a bit more.
The first class you take - no matter how many credits you come onboard with, is to help you identify your long term goals and it will introduce you to the online process. That class has all types of students, and many will drop out once they realize that this is a real degree and not a joke. During your first class you will have to take an English Language Arts Proficiency exam - you can take it when you are ready and there is a tutoring website to help you prepare. If you fail it you can prepare again and then take it again. If you still can't pass it you will be enrolled in a college level English course. You need that because there are research papers due for every course you take. If you can't write a college level paper you will struggle. They give EVERYONE a writing coach. These people will help you with format etc.
I'm not doubting the people who are complaining about the administration but honestly - I haven't had one single problem.
My original enrollment advisor checks in with me periodically. My academic advisor was promoted (he was great) and they gave me someone else. She's fine - answers my questions but I still miss my original advisor who really was a great guy.
I will finish my degree in June - I came onboard with a lot of credits so I was able to start taking classes in my major right away.
Some of the books you can buy from discounters online and others you have to buy from the school. Yes they are expensive - but textbooks are expensive.
I would not hesitate to do this all over again...and I am PAYING for this degree.
Angie November 5, 2008 at 3:12 p.m.
I last came here in April to see what other people had to say about this school. I read all of the post (at the time) and made my decision to go on and enroll. So for I can say it's been a good experience. I can't say it’s been a walk in the park, yes the classes are demanding but it you determine to do your work and work your time you can do it. I have trouble doing that sometimes and so far my teachers at Ashford have been understanding to me. Overall I would recommend this school to anyone who is looking for an online degree. And
To Joe:
You’re STILL on here? It’s been almost 7 m since I was last on here and you were defending yourself and your point of view. Don't you think it's time to let go and focus on something more productive?
Good Samaritan November 7, 2008 at 5:13 a.m.
I see more fluff reviews have been posted. If you are serious about investing your money (or your financial aid) into an online college, I highly recommend you read ALL of the reviews on this page. Ashford may be accredited, but that doesn't mean that they offer quality degrees--take a look at their catalog and you'll see that they're all in the Arts. Do you know what an AA or BA in Psychology will get you? Nothing because Psychology is traditionally considered a science, and your future employers will expect you to have taken science courses. As a former advisor, I can't even tell you how many complaints I heard from former students whose degrees were not recognized by brick and mortar universities OR by potential employers.
stef November 7, 2008 at 9:48 a.m.
I am just wondering how you pay for the classes, is it every 5 weeks you pay, once a year, 2 times? any ideas? and approx how much does it cost total for each say 3 credit class. I am interested, but scared of the finances.
Peter November 7, 2008 at 5:20 p.m.
I was thinking of attending this online university, but after doing some research and being treated really badly from the admission staff when I could not enroll for the semester they wanted me to enroll I decided to go somewhere else. The admission advisor actually had the guts to tell me that I have to prove to her that I wanted to go to graduate school and that if I did not apply when she told me that I would be denied and I could not apply for a year. This is all without me submitting an application. My suggestions go to another institution.
Michelle November 11, 2008 at 6:20 p.m.
I have been attending Ashford for about four months now. So far, I really like the school. I have never had any problems contacting anyone or people returning my calls. As a matter of fact, both my enrollment advisor and academic advisor contacted me on my Birthday to wish me a happy birthday.
As for financial aid, I took a loan through them and had no problems. There were no hidden fees (from the beginning I was told that books are not covered) and I was pleased with how professional everyone was.
I would recommend Ashford to anyone who is interested in getting a degree, but is not able to go to a regular school.
Michelle
To Stef and LB November 12, 2008 at 7:54 p.m.
To Stef
If you get fin aid, your school will receive a dispersment every 4 classes (or 12 credits) just as your would if you went to a reg school. If you get your dispersmint before you have any classes done they will hold the total amount of the 4 upcoming classes and issue a check of the remainder within 14 days.
And to LB:
the Vet that had problems with the school and TA you might want to look in to it. Because as far as i understand NO TA pays 100% of your school Unless you are also getting you GI Bill. And the GI Bill should be paid right to you. But if your sure that your TA is covering all of you schooling the i would contact the loan agency that you get your school lone through and have them stop sending the school money. I just want to let you know, if you didn't Ashford, as a Vet, or Active military member, they will pay your Technology fees, all of your books and the shipping to your home. Keep up with your student portal and keep an eye on your moneys .It's easy to keep up with when it's on your student portal.
Valerie November 17, 2008 at 2:57 a.m.
I enrolled at Ashford in June '06 and graduated in Dec '07 with a BA in Psychology. I had a wonderful experience. The 5 week intensive classes were just long enough to keep my attention. The only reason I did not continue at Ashford for my graduate degree is that my major wasn't offered. Now I have 10-week courses and find myself bored around week 6. Ashford kept me on my toes. I loved that I knew what to expect with each class because each class follows the same frame work (weekly quiz, discussion posts and responses, papers due in week 3 and week 5). It worked for me. Sure, there were classes in which the instructors were not as visible or available, but as an online adult learner, knowing how to work without supervision should be part of one's make-up anyway. This happens in B&M schools, too. I excelled at Ashford and was ecstatic to finally finish my B.A. with a 3.93 GPA at the age of 36. I earned every A. Ashford is no diploma mill. You study, do the work and put effort into it, you get good results. If not, well...then, not so much. I drove with 10 members of my family and close friends in a bad snow storm from Chicago to Iowa to the B&M Ashford for graduation and it was worth it. I truly accomplished something and am a role model for my kids and anyone who never thought they would have the chance to go back to school after making some bad decisions in their youth or just because life threw them a curve. I recommend Ashford to anyone who is computer literate, is a self-starter, and works well without supervision.
Dawn November 18, 2008 at 9:31 p.m.
Valerie, I am very interested in hearing more about your experiences with Ashford. I have just enrolled to begin December for a BA in Psychology. If you wouldn't mind sharing I would love to hear.
Hidden Fees November 20, 2008 at 8:08 a.m.
The worst part about Ashford besides the crappy service is the technology fee. They charge you almost $1000 in your second class that many online colleges provide for free. I was outraged when they popped that on my bill. It would have been alright if Ashford was worth going to but the lack of feedback and games they played with my FA set me running. It is outrageous that they charge you the entire tech fee up-front. It is a control that they use to divest so much of your money that they make it impractical to leave. It doesn't cost more than $50 to set you up with Blackboard, WebCT, and an e-mail acount. I'm also livid about not having a choice to buy my books from other sources. Why should I have to buy my books from them when other colleges let me purchase 99% of them on Amazon for pennies on the dollar? I did like that they let me gain credit for life experience for most of my degree. That would have saved me alot of money if this degree was worth anything but then the stigma of so much life experience credit kind of made me pause too. I did it anyway thinking the faculty would give a darn about critiqing my work. It took them forever to grade and when I did get my papers back they hardly had any comments on them at all with B+ and As. It is odd that I get such scores when I was a C student in traditional school.
Anyway, thank goodness I am out of that money pit and in a better online school. Word to the wise, unless you are looking for a piece of paper, find yourself a better school. These people don't care about anything except your MONEY.
Ashford = DIPLOMA MILL! November 21, 2008 at 8:47 a.m.
Ashford sells life experience degrees! Buyer beware!!
J November 22, 2008 at 2:05 a.m.
Disbursement* I was thinking about enrolling. Just finished conversing with a rep, he was pretty cool. I asked tons of questions. They waive the app fee, which is cool. I just don't get the finaid. When will they disburse the money to pay for tuition and will there be a refund. (graduate student)?
John November 23, 2008 at 8:33 a.m.
I have attended Ashford for almost 2 years now and let me tell you about my experiences. So far this year, I have had 0 contact with my financial aid advisor Heather. I have sent numerous emails, made over 15 phone calls, all just to make sure they received my financial aid application. Not one return email or phone call. I have not bought a book in my last 12 classes, that's right. I just look the stuff up online. The assessment quizzes,you can look those up online as well. I have questioned the quality of my education for the last year now. I checked with a few local colleges and Ashford is accredited, and they told mw they would take my credits, so that is a relief. The only reason I am staying is so I can get the financial aid to pay for the classes I have taken so far, once they are paid for, I am outta there! Some teachers are good, most don't seem to care. My comment on not buying books, I have a 3.90 GPA-what does that tell you about the quality of the degree?
Joe November 24, 2008 at 7:09 a.m.
I wouldn't say they sell life experience degrees wholesale. You do have to take a handful of classes before they hand out the sheepskin but 75 credits does make it mostly a life experience degree.
"I have a 3.90 GPA-what does that tell you about the quality of the degree?"
You might be an exceptional student... what was your GPA in HS?
Josh November 24, 2008 at 6:49 p.m.
First off, I'm still enrolled and about to finish my first class. I'm pretty upset with the entire experience. I was very cautious when I signed up. I told my enrollment advisor I wanted all my financial aid taken care of prior to starting classes. She pushed me in a nice way. Every day 2-3 emails and at least 1 phone call. Trying to get me under way. I was suspicious and kept to my guns saying that I wouldn't start until I found out about the financial aid. I did all the paperwork on my end right away. I guess that is where I faltered. I didn't waste any time getting my end done and fully expected them to do the same....
So I get the phone call I'm approved for such and such amount and can start on the 28th of October...Great. I do, its now late november and oddly enough my student loans haven' t been deferred yet....weird. I thought this was all done already.
I called Sallie Mae and they advised me that they hadn't heard from Ashford at all, not for the loan for the school, and certainly not for the deferment request....
At this point I placed 4 calls to my financial advisor, left 2 voicemails and wait 24 hours. No response, I then sent an email and waited 8 hours. No responce. At this point I emailed my enrollment advisor and told her what was going on. She replied quickly with a form for me to fill out and told me I would hear from my financial advisor in 20 minutes.
2 hours later I emailed again saying that that was a long 20 minutes and I hadn't heard from anyone. About 30 minutes later I finally got an email from my financial advisor with another form to fill out. I filled it out and sent it back......
She received it and told me it would be taken care of. 5 days later...I call Sallie Mae, they still don't know anything about Ashford.
So I ask.........how can you enroll me and tell me my financial aid is in order.....and not even have the loan paperwork done yet????
Joe November 25, 2008 at 11:34 p.m.
I love to complain about all these online schools even though I didn't go to any of them. I complain and complain about Walden and then about Capella and then who knows....
Rob December 9, 2008 at 6:43 p.m.
Joe when you said "Wow... more financial aid problems. Like we never saw that coming. If Ashford has 'screwed' you out of your financial aid please go to the BBB and file a complaint. If they take longer than 14 days please do so as well. It is against the law for them to hold on to your money." Here is what the email says-"Ashford University’s stipend process has been updated to provide funding for your coursework throughout the academic year. Effective October 13th, 2008, Ashford University will begin issuing four stipends per academic year. The amount of funding you receive will not change, only the scheduled disbursement of the stipends. This change will allow the financial aid disbursements to better coincide with the timing of anticipated charges for the courses in which you enroll. Thirty percent of the payment period’s stipend will be available for disbursement after the seventh week of successful continuous enrollment, and the remaining seventy percent will be available after the fourteenth week of successful continuous enrollment." Is it illegal? And if anyone knows any place i can call to find this out please let me know.
Greg (an actual student) December 9, 2008 at 6:56 p.m.
Let's face it...all colleges are buisnesses, therefore it is understood that they are expensive, and you only get what you give. Ashford has a easy online interface that is easy to use. The instructors ask enough from you to feel like you are actually accomplishing something. The bookstore is a joke however. In most classes you can get by without it.
Not Quite Free Application Fee December 9, 2008 at 9:51 p.m.
For the record guys...your application fee is only free if you actually enroll. If you apply and then decide you don't want to go, or if your FA isn't approved and you can't pay for your classes in another way, then they will charge you for the app fee later. So don't buy into the whole line about them waiving your application fee. Also, don't buy their bull about promotions like a wavied app fee or $100 book credit. Ashford does these "promos" EVERY month but the advisors still tell students that they're a limited time offer to push them to enroll early so they can meet their weekly/monthly quotas.
Joe December 10, 2008 at 8:28 a.m.
Did I say 14 days? I meant 14 weeks as the original poster said. Under Title IV regulations they are not allowed to hold on to it more than 30-45 days.
me December 10, 2008 at 12:57 p.m.
As for the $15-20 dollars a unit at a community college, that is pretty close. I carried 25-27 hours most semesters and my tuition and lab expenses were under $600. Please remember that includes lab fees and insurance (which is required and I carried a lot of classes with labs)and not my books. I would never recommend buying new books to anyone unless the book can't be found elsewhere. Great prices at places like Amazon. Most community colleges have online classes and are willing to work with the adult student and around work schedules. I would recommend everyone here at least looking into their local community college and at least talking to them. If you choose Ashford, at least you can say that you chose the right option for yourself at that time.
Rob December 14, 2008 at 1:46 a.m.
So far so good. Still trying to get all info on the stipend.
B December 17, 2008 at 8:38 p.m.
If anyone is depending on their excess funds for books etc. it could be a long wait. Ashford is a nightmare
I'm a transfer student and they were aware from the beginning. I complied and immediately faxed to them the form authorizing access to my transfer units.
Did they submit me to Sallie Mae as a junior, which is correct. NO! I was submitted as a freshman and my award not only didn't provide excess funds, but didn't even cover all tuition. My first award date was Sep. 9, 2008.
Then it took about 8 weeks before I started calling to see when the revision would finally take place. they kept telling me they'd send emails to the processing office, which by the way have no phones. Ha!
Finally in week 11 we get an answer back from processing. I was denied the revision. There reason was because I'm a freshman. The idiot who received the request never bothered to check on my current status, the credits were clearly there.
Then I have to be resubmitted for a revision. After an additional 3 weeks they finally sent me a new award letter dated Dec. 9. It's Dec. 17. I still haven't gotten my check.
And, lastly, I just finished my third class and the instructor was from another planet. she couldn't communicate enough to answer a simple question. she was always apologizing for off the wall broadcast emails asking for the wrong thing. She admonished me on my draft reflective paper which was 3 pages (cuz it was a draft). She said, "i told you I wanted 8 pages for a draft." when I challenged her where she said that, she never responded. the final was supposed to 8 pages. Ashford should be ashamed of hiring someone like that and collecting my money for it.
Mia December 18, 2008 at 9:57 p.m.
To begin with, Ashford is far from being Military friendly. I am a soldier in the United States Army, and I am currently serving in Iraq. I have had nothing but trouble with this university, and I am disgusted at the lack of respect given to soldiers overseas. I was receiving tuition assistance, and the school messed the paperwork, so it showed I still had a balance. My advisor assured me everything was ok, and the emails that were being sent to me I can disreguard. So I did, and of course I saved ALL the email traffic in case something were to come of it. So I am continuing my education, when all of the sudden a credit reporting agency emails me to state my balance needed to be paid. I was so angry, I called and did ALL the homework to find out why I had been reported to a collection agency, when all my balance should heb been paid in full by Tuition Assistance. The university stated that the payment definitely did not come. So (from Iraq) I called TA, my enrollment advisor and countless other people, extension after extension, until I got to the right person. I finally spoke with a military TA rep, and she stated yes in fact Ashford was paid. So I had her send the receipt to my email address and I forwarded this receipt to all the people in charge of my financial aid. In this time frame, I was disenrolled from the school, because of my unpaid balance they stated had to be paid. So I am now not in classes at this point, due to an error made by Ashford University. I paid the credit agency the balance earlier that morning, so it would not go on my credit report. I then get an email saying, "we apologize for the inconvience caused by this" and that was it. I then call to complain about this ridiculous situation..and I was given the runaround. In all I can say to ANY MILITARY SOLDIER attending ashford university, that this is not the first and wont be the last complaint from a soldier about this school and their poor financial planning, as well as poor customer service. Yes they do make it sound good, but in the long run, they are not military friendly.
Nate December 28, 2008 at 7:20 a.m.
Well I'm looking for a new "home" school because my current school (with online and B&M campuses) is cancelling my major in favor of something slightly less rigorous.
I'm curious as to how AU is in terms of classroom instruction? I see LOTS of people have issues with financial aid and that is of no concern to me--I have one of the best tuition plans in the country: so long as the school is recognized by any CHEA organization *AND* the student is awardede real univ credits or CEU credits then they'll pay 100% of the tuition and any fees for application, proctoring, registration, credit evaluation, challenge tests etc AND pay for up to $300/class for books. Nothing would be out of pocket for me as the school would either bill them directly or I use my corporate World Visa for up-front stuff and then expense them when the course is completed.
Having tuition paid for is a plus as it allows me to maintain privacy by not having to give out my SSN (I can't file for the tuition tax credit and don't use any finaid so there's no requirement for me to give it out). It also sounds like I'll avoid a lot of hassles dealing with the finaid counselors :-D
So, since I pretty much have a blank check, I'm also very curious about how AU handles transfer credits? I have about 300 credits (no, I'm not kidding) scattered across 8 well, 9 now, schools--just never anyplace long enough to amass them into a degree since online schools weren't an option until this most recent school. So am I going to have problems getting a transfer credit assessment or would it make sense for me to perform my own assessment and send in a "suggestion" of what classes I've taken should substitute for AU courses?
I'm debating between AU, Capella, Strayer and St. Leo. Hopefully this site can help me decide.
Thanks all.
St. Leo December 30, 2008 at 9:19 p.m.
My God-sister has a BSBA from St. Leo. She is an assistant manager of a take-out Pizza Hut with aspirations to move up the chain. I hope it happens for her but it has been awhile and nothing yet.
Rick aka 'Tinman' January 1, 2009 at 10:37 p.m.
I just enrolled in Ashford University to earn a Bachelor of Science Degree in Social and Criminal Justice. The first person I spoke with, Joe Altieri, aka Joker but when it comes to knowing his job, the benefits and the overall professional character for wanting to see a person excel and achieve...Joker knows his job. I am also in the armed forces and the advantages for me to earn my Bachelors Degree is perfect for how easy they make it. I've been reading some of these comments...grow up people...I admire folks that want to advance and get educated but how you approach a situation will determine how both sides will handle the matter. Jenny, enroll in the classes you want to and excel beyond what your own expectations are. Talk to Joe. He'll walk you through step by step and has a goal that all anyone has to do is ask and not let a fail if he can help them achieve. He has code of professional ethics but he'll tell you straight.
Ethics January 2, 2009 at 4:45 a.m.
The only code of professional ethics "Joe" has, is how he can take more of your mon-ay. What is so disappointing is that you fell for the speal. If Joe really wanted you to succeed he would have refered you to another college. With all of the admissions people roaming this blog, I wouldn't be suprised if you are Joe Altiera himself. If true, it is truely pathetic that you come here to garner more business for yourself just like the rest of these Ashford leaches. The best ethics lesson, when you are a consumer, that can be given is, watch out for yourself because no-one at Ashford is going to do it.
Josh January 6, 2009 at 1:22 a.m.
Can anyone tell me who has recently enrolled if the $990 tech fee is actually covered by financial aid. My enrollment advisor told me that it was but I would like to make sure as I cannot afford to incur any out-of-pocket expensives (aside from books) at the moment.
Thanks
Chris January 15, 2009 at 6:01 a.m.
I've just enrolled to AU after weeks of skeptism. I've been to higher tier schools before, but due to present circumstances I had to opt for a non-traditional route. I must say that this blog has enlightened me on some aspects of the reality of an online degree. I applaud people like 'Joe' and 'Dr. Mathews' for bravely presenting some real hard facts on the reality online degrees face in the professional world and encourage them and others to continue to do so. Because people like me need it. When I do research on a certain subject I don't come to a blog to bash other people, but to learn from someone who at least appears to know what they are talking about. But I do appreciate some of the others who have a little more negative slant towards AU; probably bc it affirms some of the thoughts I already had. Nevertheless, I will finish my first class and continue to sort through the fog to decide whether this is worth it for ME.
Joe January 16, 2009 at 7:04 a.m.
Chris, you should try it out if you feel it is the best option available. Just note that you will be paying a $1000 tech fee even for one class and any PLA fees you paid will not be refunded.
Mariana January 16, 2009 at 3:38 p.m.
I am currently a student in Ashford's Online Sociology Bachelor's degree. Let me start by saying that I did not qualify for financial aid, so I really can't write much about that. They pay for my books because I am a military spouse (or so they said, it seems they pay for a lot of books for a lot of people). The school is a real, physical school with several online programs. Obviously the online programs are the school's cash cows. Because we are an Army family, we have moved around a lot, so I had to go to an online school. I chose Ashford because I found it on a list of online schools and programs compiled by the Army. So I felt relatively safe signing up. The process was almost too easy, but I get my books on time, and so far everything has run flawlessly. Is the education quality education? Not really. The educational standards are minimal, but the work is tedious and time consuming if you are like me and trying to actually learn something. Students post discussions that hardly make sense and are junior high level stuff. Plagiarism runs rampant. I have complained several times about plagiarism, but it seems that no one cares. The instructors are not too familiar with the Blackboard system (which seems odd to me). Some instructors participate a lot, some hardly ever. There is always an 8 to 10 page paper due at the end of the 5 weeks. If you have poor writing skills, or are not familiar with APA style, be ready to do a lot of research on it by yourself, because the instructors are not that clear on APA themselves, and you are better off just looking it up online.
They did take all of my transfer credits (I had 64). I was told I had to start with one class at a time, but after my first few, there would be no problem doubling up. What the enrollment advisor forgot to mention was that the loans I had covered only one class at a time and if I wanted to take a second or third class, that was all out of pocket expense (including the books ). So instead of finishing the degree as fast I thought I would, it is going to take a little longer. Imagine my disappointment. I will blame myself for this, though, because I did not straight up ask how those second or third classes would be paid for. Beware, the enrollment advisors are as slick as car salesmen!
Overall, I am just happy to be going to school after a 4 year hiatus. I hope to have my degree by mid 2010. If all goes well, I will come back here and let you all know. :-)
Chris January 17, 2009 at 5:39 a.m.
Joe, thanks for the tip. I'm definitly going to have some hard questions next time I talk to my advisor. I don't even recall a sigle word about a tech fee; this must be why they've been hastling me about getting my FASFA turned in. There's really no sense in rushing to file one anyway since I'm in the military. One of those great military perks is that 100% of my tuition is paid for, which will pay for atleast 6 classes a year at AU. On top of that, books and fees I was told are waived under AU's military scholarship. So I will surely be curious to find out about this so called "tech fee".
Joe January 18, 2009 at 5:13 a.m.
Just make sure your costs don't exceed your TA. If you start digging into your GI Bill now you will be kicking yourself later when you want to get a Masters.
Mia January 20, 2009 at 1:53 a.m.
Joe I had to read this and laugh. The number of typos were astonishing! You said you work in "the defence industry". Did you mean you hang fencing, meaning wooden boards? DEFENSE is the correct spelling there. That was THE one that just tipped me over the edge!
Doubtful you have a college degree at all. You can't even spell the type of industry you are supposedly employed by! I would advise anyone looking into education, whether it be online or otherwise, to do personal investigations using a variety of different methods. People like "Joe" are just here spreading venom. Obviously he's paid by someone else to do this. Probably the only real job he has is to sit on this board and type disbarraging comments to anyone who enters.
Amazing!
J January 20, 2009 at 11:31 p.m.
LOL @ Mia!! I am currently attending Ashford, and I like it. I haven't had any problems yet. I didn't have to put in a credit card for the app fee; my enrollment counselor gave me a waiver code. She is very helpful. She responds back to me within an 30min of emailing her. My financial aid post to my account on the day Sallie Mae said it was going to post. My financial aid advisor also is great; he responds in a timely manner. I have been treated much better than when I was at another local school here. Oh yeah, I am a graduate student studying Business-Finance.
Eli January 21, 2009 at 2:17 a.m.
I checked Ashford university for accreditation and found that they are a regionally recognized program. From the research I gathered this is good news. U of Phoenix is also regionally recognized. I just have to decide which is best for me on my road to becoming a paralegal.
Joe January 22, 2009 at 2:25 a.m.
Really Mia, spare yourself the exhibition in ignorance.
Tiffany January 22, 2009 at 8:43 a.m.
I just transferred to Ashford Last week. I went to kaplan and recieved 60 credits, I then took one class at Phoenix before withdrawing myself and I am so far enjoying Ashford. However I was wondering if anyone knows how long it will take to have my credits transferred and what they will except from a Nationally accredited school like Kaplan. I will say that I love that ashford does not do group projects, whick both Kaplan and UOP have alot of.
Thanks
Amanda January 23, 2009 at 6:54 a.m.
Just to clear this up. It is mentioned somewhere (if you search Ashford's website for online tuition costs) that there is a tech fee of $990 that will be charged after the start of your second class. Financial aid WILL cover this. Anything that has been directly charged to my Ashford account has been taken care of with financial aid. Financial aid will not directly cover the costs of books, internet access, or computer programs. But that is why you receive stipends: to help cover the extra costs. The average costs of books for each class is $100 however, you can go to different websites and order the books for a lot cheaper. There is only one difference if you order your book from someone else: if you order from Ashford University then it says Ashford University on the cover. I have ordered several used books from different schools. It's still the same book inside.
The one negative thing that I will say is that it took quite a while to receive my stipend. I started in June and just received my first check at the beginning of January.
DISGRUNTLED January 27, 2009 at 12:17 a.m.
I just had the most horrible experience. it all started with the poor spelling skills of my instructor. she was short and never there for me. she got onto other students for spelling when she couldnt spell. secondly, this got me looking into the school. on the texas board of education coordinating boards website it lists ashford as an fraudulent and substandard institution. i called to verify. they said the actual campus is legitimate and that the online courses or degrees you recieve are no good to use in the state of texas. i asked him to look it up for me and it turned out to be true. well i called the school and they assured me that this was a lie and that the online program is completely legit. i dont want to spend 43,000 dollars on a degree that will be turned down when i apply for a teacher certification program. it is also stated on this website that it is ILLEGAL to use this degree in texas and you could go to jail. if you dont believe me call the education board in texas yourself and ask them. secondly i called to get the classes dropped and im going to recieve a bill from them soon for 800 dollars for a class that is a complete joke. if you like the reading and posting your feelings atmosphere then i guess its the school for you. but how do you expect to be real knowledgeable in your area of education without ever taking a single test? I wouldnt dare sign up with ashford if i were you. to much fishy business surrounding the organization. thirdly, why is there enrollment team located in an entirely different city and state with advisors that have never even been to there campus in Iowa. makes no sense to me. i dropped the course and filed a complaint with fafsa. im sickened and disgruntled with the whole institution. good luck to all!
Elissa January 28, 2009 at 12:36 a.m.
Actually through my research, Ashford is accredited through the North Central Association of Colleges and schools.
Check the US department of Education to see for yourself at wwwd(.)ed(.)gov
Why would an online course listing for a school be any different than a physical classroom? That makes no sense. I would say that the US department of education would be the higher ranking of the two when matched with the state of Texas.
What is this tech fee everyone is talking about?
Joe February 8, 2009 at 3:54 a.m.
Under Title IV, the school is only allowed to delay your check by 30-45 days. If it took six months for you to recieve it, then Ashford is in violation of Title IV and can be denied recieving federally backed student loans.
Tom B. February 8, 2009 at 4:01 p.m.
Disgruntled,
If you go back to the Texas board website and read the remarks section for Ashford University, it says that it is not to be confused with Ashford University out of Clinton, Iowa, which is a legitimate school. The online courses are out of that campus, there was obviously another business trying to use Ashford's name as their diploma mill. I am a military student with Ashford and the VA would not approve education benefits if it was not accredited or legit. I have also had to request transcripts from Ashford and they came from the Clinton, Iowa campus. I suggest you stick with Ashford, it has been the best online school that I have attended and it is hard to find a good regionally accredited school online. Best of luck to you!
mybear February 10, 2009 at 8:46 p.m.
I am in the process of finishing up my degree at Ashford. I could not be more pleased with my advisor, and most of the teachers. Their have been some that I do not think really cared but most of them did. I have had no problems with my aid but I am having a hard time understanding this holding it for weeks. I feel if I am paying the interest they should not be getting the interest. By the time my 14 weeks is up to recieve all my aid I will be finishing up at Ashford. I am wondering does anyone no if it is legal even though they say it was approved by the department of education.
@mybear February 12, 2009 at 6:52 p.m.
Ashford is only allowed to hold your money no longer than 35 days. If they do so, they will be inelligable to recieve Title IV funding as they will be in breech of the rules.
totally pissed February 17, 2009 at 3:37 p.m.
Ashford has pissed me off. I am a veteran, and a current student at this school. first off where the hell is my 70% stipend. It was supposed to be mailed out on the 10th, then when you call you have to be down right rude to get any answers I called the VA, and according to them this school has been reported several times by other veterans. While the VA can't tell you which school to go to they strongly encourage ppl to try a different school when it comes to ashford.
Jacob March 3, 2009 at 8:47 a.m.
Hello all. I took the time to read all of your posts. Somehow this has become a hostile atmosphere of largely unproductive debate. I currently attend Ashford University. I am majoring in both Psychology and Social and Criminal Justice.I am currently in my ninth class. I have a 3.75 major GPA and a 3.63 GPA cumulative. I began my college journey with Nassau Community College with a large host of science, math and honors courses. I completed the Biology and Psychology majors there with the required four chemistry courses for Biology. I also did well in the honors English courses, though my strong points are neuroscience, metabolism, and counseling. I also have a keen interest in the Constitution and economics, specifically how they apply to the current sociopolitical situation and the economic crash which stems from the collateralised debt obligations and the sub-prime mortgages backed by toxic securities.
I am not a know it all nor am I claiming that all colleges are equal in all subject matter. I had a 3.8 average GPA in community college, but sometimes it was higher or a little lower. The main obstacles in the traditional "brick and mortar school," were transportation issues, getting to class on time and paying for very expensive textbooks. I enjoy the convenience of an online University. I also enjoy the academic rigor of Ashford University. I have also completed courses through Harvard Extension's Distance Education program and have taken several courses through Stanford University to test myself, enjoy a well rounded education, and see what schools offer varied educational advantages and challenges.
Ashford tests are open book while Harvard's and more traditional Universities are not as a rule, but there are some minor exceptions. The value of a class depends upon both what you as a student put into it and what kind of professor you have. I have had outstanding professors everywhere I attended and conversely I have had some real lemons. Not all the professors through the Harvard Extension program or Stanford's campus cared much about their students or were easily accessible for questions.At Ashford I also had bad experiences with several professors and my Academic Advisors (-ors as it is spelled by Ashford) changed a half dozen tims thus far. Ashford uses real college level textbooks and most of the professors are outstanding, the Advisors are another story, it is a very mixed outcome.
Jacob March 3, 2009 at 8:52 a.m.
I like the five week schedule and a lot of work gets crammed into these succinct courses. Also the research papers are up to par with any State University requirements. Having seen my friend's (an A and B+ student) research papers from Queens College and others from NYU, Cornell,and Hofstra University I can attest to this.I also tutor college students to support myself while I take some teaching credential tests over the coming months.Many people also judge community college and term it "thirteenth grade," but nothing could be further from the truth. Now, if you want to be an engineer or mathematician then N.C.C. is a great school, while Ashford does not offer these options at least in the online program.It depends upon your goals, time available, age,finances, familial responsibilities, and ability to self motivate, as to what you decide.
I do know from attending Stanford part time (can not afford to go there full time, and online is a more accommodating environment plain and simple)that there is course work with equally stimulating classroom discussion and standards for grammar, diction, thesis, and thoroughness for the papers and essays written, while the tests at Ashford are far easier. Still Ashford does employ highly educated professors and maintains an accredited curriculum. I found my laboratory coursework very valuable elsewhere, however, the writing experience in Ashford coursework is highly valuable and educational. I am self motivated and a lifetime learner,so Ashford is not for people who need their hands held.
Jacob March 3, 2009 at 9:02 a.m.
I realize I am getting long winded, however, I just want to get my points across and dispel the false rumors about Ashford University. Many of us, students of AU, do know the difference between there and their, accept and except, and we actually do care about a quality education.This is not an attack on those who do not or who have typographical errors, we all are guilty of a rushed blog post, and errors will result. Also an Economics professor is not going to necessarily be as skilled at grammar and diction as an English one. In kind a Biochemist cares more about SN2 reactions and rate laws while a professor of Sociology does not at all unless they enjoy Biochemistry as a hobby or hold a degree in it as well.The same is true of students. We all have a different range of skills and interests. Not all students are equal, this is a harsh reality as not all professors are equal in their teaching approaches or skill sets. My Cultural Anthropology professor at Ashford was more than outstanding with expertise in Business, Sociology, Anthropology, Archaeology and he holds an immense knowledge of Economics and Politics. We chat sometimes through email though the class is over.
Jacob March 3, 2009 at 9:05 a.m.
Most colleges award some life experience credits. CLEP can be a useful set of tests for people who do not require certain coursework.
John March 13, 2009 at 7:32 p.m.
Are there any employees who can comment on the experiences of Teaching Assistant for Ashford? I read a complaint that they do not always pay you when they say they are going to. Is this the case?
Stephanie G. March 15, 2009 at 3:02 a.m.
I have been attending Ashford University for 3 years. I will have my degree in 2 months. I really like this online school. I have a great advisor Ian Foster, who insures my satisfaction. This school is real and is great. If you do not like your advisor switch, if you drop a class you have to make sure that you do not log in any more or you will be charged. It makes sense so stop blaming the school for your actions or lack of action.
Albert March 15, 2009 at 4:47 p.m.
I was thinking of doing online classes with Ashford but the advisor who at first seemed really cool, started to act like a pushy used car salesman and got really belligerent when I told him that I needed to wait for the VA to approve the classes and give me permission to start school with Ashford. He started getting really rude and cocky telling me that I didn't need to wait for the VA (which by the way you do) it seemed to me that all he wanted to do is pump some more bodies into this online school, I really thought this was very unprofessional, and so I will not be attending Ashford. As for the school itself other then these website's I've found I can't say much about it, it seems like a mixed crowd on the education side of things. Just the whole experience with this "advisor" was a total turn off for me these online schools are a dime a dozen so I'll go elsewhere.
NUSREEN March 17, 2009 at 5:29 a.m.
I have the worse enrollment, financial and academic advisors in the history of ashford. AU contacts are just there to look pretty. I really want to know how the stipend checks are distributed. I was thinking about going to a local community college too. I dont have a problem with the education I just have an issue when ever I need help. My sister is in ashford and she doesnt have these issue. I dont get it I WAS SUPPOSE TO RECEIEVE A FREE BOOKBAG AND IT NEVER CAME. WHAT THE HECK IS THE TECHNOLOGY FEE. MY FINANCE AVDISOR SEEMS TO HAVE A THING FOR MY ENROLLMENT ADVISOR AS SHE DID THE FINANCE WORK WITH ME AND SCREWED UP. I was really nice and patient but now I'm having second thoughts.
Chris March 18, 2009 at 8:59 p.m.
Everyone, please avoid Ashford University. A school with this much controversy and complaints is not worth your time, energy, and money. I know this because I am speaking from personal experience. I didn't believe the people on this reveiw at first, but I had to find out the hard way. They are sweet and charming at first, but corode quickly into a inefficiant, incompentent administration. Do not do business with Ashford.
Shani March 23, 2009 at 4:28 p.m.
These comments are hilarious. I have not been to a college that charged $20 per unit. If that was the case, more people could afford to go to college. These classes are cheaper to what I have come across and I went to a popular state university. Ashford is cheaper, believe that. I have checked numerous programs. I'm in the MBA program. Every school gets just as many compliants as compliments. Nothing goes perfectly at any school. My first year in undergrad, the school ran out of dorm space and I was without a dorm. so things happen.
Harmon March 25, 2009 at 6:24 p.m.
I am in my 6th course at Ashford University. I found that their fees are generally lower than most online programs. I do have a problem with the Ashford specific textbooks which seem way overpriced even when I buy them via ebay and amazon used.
As a whole I found my advisors to be adequate if not better and my instructors were attentive though I consider that they could be more so. In as much as they seem to be part time and use this to supplement their income elsewhere I can comprehend their shortage of time.
One complaint I have is that some of the required coursework is ridiculous including computer basics, which cannot be tested out of even by those who are very proficient. Their are other courses as well of this nature..
Dan March 31, 2009 at 1:14 a.m.
If you have very few credits and don't care where you graduate, Asford is great. If you have over 60 credits, don't fall for the "99 credit transfer" scam, they will only transfer about 60. I took "Business Law" at a major University and they would not transfer that to "Business Law" at Ashford becuase it was not a matching course. Are you kidding me? That happened to most of my transfer credits. Ashford is ex-University of Phoenix folks, so expect that pressure and they only care about money.
Mary April 1, 2009 at 6:34 p.m.
I am looking for an online MA program. MA in Teaching and Learning with Technology – looks interesting to me. I think that I have read most of all the pros and cons but I still have a few questions. I also read an anonymous posting of October 23, 2008 from one of the current graduate student. I wish I could ask him or her more questions. If anyone is willing to help, please email me directly at change200903@yahoo.com
PS.
I tried to read comments about other online schools and I found out that most of the schools do not have a lot of comments. AU is an exception! It is also amazing HOW MANY nagative comments are about this school. Is it really so bad? I am concern and confused…
Thanks.
@ Dan April 2, 2009 at 3:51 p.m.
While I agree with you that Ashford is "after your money", they are a for-profit institution and this makes sense. I must disagree with you about the transfer credits. I transferred in with only one class of traditional education. The remaining portion of transfer consisted of CLEP/DANTES and military training. In total Ashford accepted 93 SH in transfer. I have completed the useless PSY 202 that they require, and now only have 8 courses remaining for completion of my BA.
I have only completed one course so far, but I am finding my Ashford experience to be quite enjoyable. My academic adivisor is surprisingly VERY responsive, and usually gets back to me within 2-3 hours. They have accomodated various requests that I have had, and even re-evaluated a few of my CLEP/DANTES credits and awarded additional credit that was not included on the original evaluation. Based on my short experience I would reccomend Ashford University to anyone seeking a BA.
Terran April 3, 2009 at 2:24 p.m.
I just finished my BA in psych after attending Ashford for two years. I did have bad professors, but I had bad professors at a brick and mortar school as well. I transfered in 60 credits with no problem. My financial aid was taken care of, although the advisors were hard to get in touch with at times. And there were times when I was told different things by different people. I would say that you get out of it what you put into it. I worked hard, but the times I slacked off, I did get penalized in grades.
I never had any problems with my stipend checks and always received them 14 days after they were dispursed. I am considering going for my masters in business, but I'm still on the fence about this one. We'll see..
Greg April 15, 2009 at 6:56 p.m.
I am currently a student at Ashford working on my bachelor's degree. Before Ashford I attended AIU to complete my Associates. What a nightmare that was. Among all the other debacles there...on top of the financial aid I was getting I had to pay an extra $300.00 out of pocket to get my AA degree.
At Ashford, not only do I not have to pay money out of my pocket (except for books, which I would have to buy at a traditional college anyway,) but their tuition is low enough that the school actually sends me a check periodically.
Can you go to a brick and mortar school cheaper? Sure. But for those folks like myself that don't have time to sit in a classroom all day, or don't want to take 10 years to get a 4 year degree... Ashford is an excellent choice.
I agree with several of the posts above... you will get out of the experience what you put in. Some folks are going to complain no matter what. My suggestion is make the right decision for yourself, not based on what I, or anyone else says.
Good luck!
Marc Gorecki April 17, 2009 at 7:55 p.m.
I talked to an advisor at Ashford and I had alot of questions about going back to school and was looking at about 7 different schools and decided to take my time because the school I would pick would affect my future. i wasn't 15 minutes into the conversation and she was walking me thru the application process and I was advising her that I haven't decided on a school yet and I had more questions. She then put her Manager on the line and he pretty much told me I was stupid for not starting school today and said if I didn't start now I wouldn't start school at all. Then he put the original advisor on the phone and she carried on with a bunch of bull and at one point made the statement, "This is the best school in the world or I wouldn't work here. Also stating, "school would be of no cost to me if I enrolled and after I advised her a debt is of cost to be just because I don't pay it today doenst mean I woudlnt owe it.
Ashford doesn't seem legit, do some research on them. They are struggling with enrollment numbers and need to hard sell. Thats why its so cheap and thats why they take so many credits.
Another thing, why would I take classes before my Official Credit Transfer is complete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Myself April 19, 2009 at 9:56 a.m.
Hi, has anyone graduated from Ashford and actually has a job in that field??
Fools Rush In April 20, 2009 at 2:32 a.m.
After reading some of these nightmare stories, I'm a bit worried about what's going to happen to me.
Here's my story. I was an art major at Illinois State University, but left during my senior year because I didn't want to pursue the degree anymore. ISU rescinded my financial aid that year because I left early, so I got stuck with a $1700 bill.
A year later, when I decided to get a degree online, I had to pay ISU the $1700 back so I could get a copy of my transcript, which was fine because I owed it fair and square. I tried to tell my enrollment advisor (Julia Daniel) about the holdup that would happen with my transcript if I were to enroll by the March 3rd date. I said, "Maybe I should wait until I can pay ISU before enrolling..." because I'm not making the kind of money right now to just pay something like that off in full. That's when she told me that financial aid would more than likely cover the $1700 ISU bill (or a good part of it) AND all of my classes, and I should go ahead and enroll now! Why wait?!
Well, it didn't. In fact, look at this snippet of e-mail from my financial aid advisor (Michael Dulay).
"The first disbursement scheduled to come in on 03/31/09 is going to cover the first 4 courses and the Technology Fee. You are scheduled to receive $4063.50. You first four courses and tech fee will cost $5187.00. So, with that in mind you will not have any excess funds from the first disbursement. Your second disbursement is scheduled to come in 08/11/09 for $2722.50. It is going to go toward the $1124.00 balance from the first course and the remaining 4 courses to cover the academic year, $4248.00. So your total out of pocket expense for tuition for your first academic year is going to be $2649.50." (This is after filling out a FAFSA based on my mom's information, who is below poverty level!)
Fools Rush In April 20, 2009 at 2:33 a.m.
(Continued)
Then he proceeded to tell me about additional loan-based help I could get...which I am STILL waiting to hear word on. So I asked if I could take a break to pay on that ISU bill so all of my 99+ credits earned at ISU won't be worthless after my fourth class (deadline to turn in transcript).
Reply:
"Any breaks in attendance affect your financial aid by delaying disbursements." (No details were given about this delay, of course.)
I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble, I'm trying to understand why I was rushed to enroll when I suspect the school knew full-well that I'd be coming up short and unable to get my transcript released. Did they really think I'd just say, "Oh well, I'll just forget about my transfer credits and rack up another $40,000 of debt by starting all over."
I can't wait to see what kind of a bill I'm going to get stuck with when I tell them that I can't continue with classes until I pay ISU in full. I will definitely be coming back here with any response I get. If my BA in Communications is going to be laughed at, I will not be spending another dime on this school.
Sarah April 20, 2009 at 11:30 p.m.
I have been enrolled at Ashford for five classes now, and I must say it has been a relatively pleasant experience. I admit that I haven't had to deal with financial aid, but all of my advisors have been fantastic. I had one professor who wasn't very good, but the others have all seemed accessible and welcoming. I had over one hundred credits when I transferred in, and I was a bit annoyed that they only gave me somewhere around seventy, especially as I was a philosophy major before and they want me to take three basic english classes. Ashford came up best when I looked at online courses as far as prices go. Like any college, they are bureaucratic and it takes them a while to do some things, and not all of the people you reach on the phone are terribly bright or knowledgeable. However, I think that if you want to a degree fast, don't want to pay much and are motivated Ashford will work out just fine for you
Niki April 22, 2009 at 3:38 p.m.
Is anyone taking classes online at Ashford for psyhcology??I just enrolled and I am intrested in finding out as much as I can about this program.
Shane April 27, 2009 at 1:52 p.m.
I tried a class at ashford to see how I liked the online envoronment... The bill for one class was over $2,000! Pretty big rip off if you ask me. I really didn't like the online program at all. I would only recommend enrolling to people who are sure they like the online classes, otherwise, YOU'RE WASTING YOU'RE MONEY.
Yolanda April 27, 2009 at 9:49 p.m.
I am seriously considering enrolling in the online BA program with a concentration in PR/Marketing. Any feedback on this program?
Gloria April 28, 2009 at 6:24 a.m.
I'm a psychology graduate of Ashford at the age of 62. I did not have the option of college as a young woman, so I will be eternally grateful to Ashford for helping to fulfill my educational goals. I originally wanted just an associate degree and got that, but I found out that I loved the online arrangement and before I knew it, I had found Ashford University. It was the perfect fit. For anyone considering this school, disregard the negative comments. When I read those, I cringe because it's obvious that things have gone wrong for the writers of them due to their own lack of motivation or discipline. Online education is accelerated -- meaning that what you learn in a traditional college over a period of many weeks, you cram into 5 weeks. It is intense. During my two years here, I had absolutely no problems with any of the classes, students, books, or financial aid. I had one class with a rather nasty professor, but you could find that situation at any school. I worked hard, finished with a 3.97 GPA, and have been inducted into Alpha Sigma Lambda, a national honor society for adult students. (If Ashford were not a legitimate school, it would not have an ASL chapter.) I feel I got a well-rounded education in psychology (and other subjects) for less money and without many of the problems of traditional colleges. Ashford has a long campus history (1918) and great school spirit. I graduate officially on May 9, 2009. I highly recommend Ashford. Just do your best work, pay attention to deadlines, read all you can about your subject, and be passionate about your education. Yes, online education is similar to on-campus education in many ways, especially in that you will get out of your college experience as much as you are willing to put into it!
Justin April 29, 2009 at 5:50 p.m.
For those who have graduated from Ashford, have employers/hr recruiters looked at your degree?
I asked a high profile staffing person and she said it didn't really matter where people get their degree(online ground etc), as long as it is from an accredited university. The employer then goes on to interview the canidates. It's more about the employee fitting in well with the employer that matters.
Andrea April 29, 2009 at 8:03 p.m.
I am thinking of enrolling in the sports and fitness management program at Ashford in July. I am a little "iffy" now because my sister has told me she has heard some bad things about the school and reading some of the comments above doesn't help either. My boyfriend is currently taking courses at Ashford; he is in his second month. I have applied to National University, which is a little more expensive. I actually got the application fee waived and my two classes waived as well because I got a scholarship. My original chose was National but the reason why I would chose Ashford is the program that I would be enrolling in and it is a little bit cheaper than National. I had never even heard of Ashford until last year. Let's hope I make the right decision.
Loralei April 29, 2009 at 10:20 p.m.
If Joe, the one with so many bad comments about AU works in the Defense Industry, why does he spell it "defence"? Just curious.
Molly May 1, 2009 at 6:48 p.m.
Excellent!! I would recommend to anyone to attend. Great on-line courses with in-depth interaction with students and the professor.
Todd May 2, 2009 at 12:13 a.m.
Hello, I am currently enrolled at Ashford and my experience (thus far. And I'm almost done)has been nothing but positive, seriously.
Initially, I was very trepidatious about attending an online college of any sort. I knew that as an adult learner (over age 21)an online college would be beneficial to me (everything is on my time and etc);however, just the idea of not being able to goto a physical classroom bothered me so much.
So, I did my research when I considered. Financially Ashford was my best bet out of them all. Moreover, it had my major. Sometimes, I felt like it was too good to be true; however, the school was not promising a quick and easy route to graduation (which was a bonus).
After seeing that Ashford is regionally accredited and a physical college campus (in conjunction with the online program),that President Obama actually spoke at during his campaign, I was sold.
My enrollment advisor, Aaron, was extremely hands on and legitimate. There was not a week that went by, during my first two classes, that he was not heavily involved. After I aced those classes (with A+ pluses)he did not call quite as frequently, but by then I didn't need him too.
I had an excellent rapport with ALL of my professors thus far. When I e-mail them they respond promptly. When I have questions my questions are answered.
My degree credits (from my previous school)all transferred and I am set to graduate in November of this year.
Most important of all I feel like I've gotten a great education. The fact that I have to write research papers practically every other week lets me know that this school is cares about producing well rounded students.
For all the people complaining about having to purchase books or bad professors and etc...etc...People, it happens. Sometimes you have to just roll with the punches in order to better your life. I knew this was not going to be a free ride, but Ashford is less expensive than MOST.
If you are a liberal arts major of any sort this really is the school for you.
b012007s May 2, 2009 at 2:22 a.m.
I am seriously considering attending AU and will be going for a BS in General Psychology, can anybody who studied this program give me some in-sigh? I would like to know if it is as simple to do online as the advisers say. Is it really that much cheaper than U of Phoenix?
Nursecrissy May 6, 2009 at 10:12 a.m.
I don’t understand why everyone is giving Joe a hard time. You should be asking him questions from an HR perspective to help you prepare for those tough interview questions that HR will ask about the worth of your online degree. C’mon people. Those of you that are attending or have attended AU or any other online school, haven’t you asked yourself how your online degree will be regarded in the workforce? If you haven’t, then you should. You have to do your own research to find out what accreditations the online schools have, and how your future employers or job markets will value your online degree.
For some people, an online degree is just what they need to move up in a position at their current job. I know Caterpillar promoted an employee once they receive their degree (yes, even from UOP!) from on online school. One of my friends is in a midlevel management position @ CAT after graduating from UOP, BUT she was already an employee. I think that makes a huge difference, whether or not you are applying for a position internally or externally. And who knows, she may not be getting paid as well (today) as someone who graduated from Bradley University or any other AACSB accredited school. I don’t think she will find herself in a VP or CEO position either, due to her online degree. BUT HERE IS THE BIGGIE: I don’t think she wants to reach that status either. A lot online students don’t need to see themselves as CEO’s, CFO’s, etc…. therefore an online degree is perfect for them (us) if they just want to move up the career ladder with their current employer to live comfortable lives.
Now, those online students that are switching careers have a bigger challenge ahead of them. For the most part, these people will be externally applying for jobs and I believe it will be tougher for them (us) to get hired because they are competing against other applicants that have 1.) Experience 2.) Degrees from AACSB, ABET, etc., Accredited brick and mortar schools.
Nursecrissy May 6, 2009 at 10:19 a.m.
A bit of information about me: I am an AU online student that is looking to switch careers. I enjoy the flexibility of the online program but I also understand that online degrees receive a lot of scrutiny in the workforce and I am prepared to take this on. I know I will probably be passed up on some positions due to my online degree, but that’s okay with me. I already have a career that I can fall back on if needed. I am a nurse that is aspiring to work in Healthcare Administration. I don’t plan on getting an HCA degree, but I do plan on getting a Bachelor’s in Business because the Business degree is versatile and not as limiting as the HCA degree. And if I want to pursue my MBA then I will only attend a school with AACSB accreditation. I just hope that I can get accepted into an MBA program. ? Does anyone have experience with AACSB schools accepting/not accepting online undergrad students into their MBA programs? Joe, Would I be more marketable/employable if I had (fingers crossed) an MBA from a B & M school with AACSB accreditation even though my undergrad degree is from an online school? OR if I cannot get into an MBA program but obtain certifications that were taught at AACSB accredited B & M schools? ? As an alternative. ?
Like I said, I am an online student and I am fully aware of the negative perceptions and scrutiny that I might receive from others about receiving my degree online.
For those who are picky about typos: I don’t care about typos. I see doctors CONSTANTLY misspelling words (some drugs are misspelled on a RX and this could be detrimental to a person’s LIFE) and I don’t doubt their education.
Rebecca May 11, 2009 at 9:04 a.m.
I agree with the current attendee's and graduates. Most of the former students who have complaints, I wish you luck. Have fun running from school to school. I am presently in my second class. Ashford is not perfect, but as someone above me stated, "you get out what you put in.' The problem with the "complainee's" Do your homework, don't sign a lease or contract before you read it. You sound like fools. You are blaming the staff for your mishaps. If there is something you don't understand before enrolling, get clarification. My enrollment advisor was great in answering every question I had for her.
Martha May 13, 2009 at 10:04 a.m.
I have been attending Ashford University since last August. I love it and anyone who says negative things about this school needs to try another option. It is perfect for someone who works full time as you can work at your own pace as long as you get the assignments. I will graduate next March with my Bachelor's degree and plan on getting my Master's after that. When I first enrolled, my advisor was very helpful. She walked me through the process step by step. She was available for questions at anytime I needed. The professors I have had have been very helpful and understanding about life's issues. I would recommend Ashford University to anyone who was thinking about attending online classes. I am absolutely 100% satisfied with Ashford.
Angela May 13, 2009 at 3:56 p.m.
I personally had a bad experience. When I first was enrolled the advisor made everything sound so great. Little did I know 3 weeks into the course the tuition fee's went up and I all of a sudden was hit with a Technology fee of $900. I can never seem to get a hold of the Finacial or academic advisors after several emails and phone calls. Very disappointed!
Does This BA Exist??? May 18, 2009 at 7:18 p.m.
I don't know this school at all. I was just reading the review from May 16, 2009 "In debt with a useless degree". My question is how does a BA in Cell Biology/Organizational Management exist? I have never heard of such a hybrid degree. Can someone explain? No wonder this poor fellow cannot get into an MS degree program in Cell Biology (most likely).
Ashford is not so bad. . May 20, 2009 at 7:53 p.m.
I have been attending Ashford University since October and so far everything is great! I have not had any problems with them and they transfered all 56 previous credits i had. I would recommend this school to anyone who is looking to better their education online. I don't know how so many people have had problems, but maybe online learning is not for them.
Amanda M. May 21, 2009 at 9:28 p.m.
Hello, I am sorry to hear that some of you are so skeptical of Ashford. I am a single mom and have been in Ashford for over a year. (For those who think I am employed at Ashford look at the dean's list under PA - Mount Carmel) I love my school. You need to inform yourself about financial aid or ask questions. Most students take this upon themselves. No grant will cover your entire cost, and stafford loans are a part of financial aid. You get e-mails and letters that notify you of anything that has to do with financial aid when you are enrolled at Ashford. There is no such thing as a perfect person, people do make mistakes. Everyone I have dealt with (students, teachers, advisors) have been wonderful and informative. We need to remember when you step into a college setting you are no longer a child, so you will be expected to perform as an adult. If you do not, that's on you. If you are looking for a online degree program, and want to feel good about it...ASHFORD IS YOUR PLACE. They have a high quality of education. If any of you want to know more from a current student, e-mail me. amanda52602@aim.com
I will not respond to those who want to be childish. Thank you and I wish you success!
Amanda M. May 21, 2009 at 9:32 p.m.
For those asking about Phoenix University, (I also looked into them) you have to do group work, so if your team mate doesn't do his part, both of your grades suffer. I wanted to be in control of my grades so I went with Ashford......I am taking Psychology and Criminal justice at Ashford, and questions e-mail me ....
Joe May 24, 2009 at 4:51 p.m.
Its seems that you online degree seekers are the only ones complaining about the school.I attend AU I stay on campus and play Basketball.There is nothing wrong with AU.
@ Joe May 24, 2009 at 5:57 p.m.
That is what this site is all about, isn't it? It is a review of online degree programs; hence the name onlinedegreereviews.org . If people are unhappy with the Ashford University online program, this is the place to report their views. I am glad you like the on campus program.
@ Amanda May 26, 2009 at 8:11 p.m.
I heard the same through complaints from UofP students and former students who have said that half the group (or more) does nothing but gets credit for the group project when the lone "workhorse" of the group turns in the paper.
got a better idea May 27, 2009 at 12:38 a.m.
Just as my name implies I have a better idea. Insted of bickering about the negatives of Ashford, why don't we focus on the positives, like....um....well....I'l think of one soon.
I've got the better idea! May 27, 2009 at 12:41 a.m.
Just got to Park University! From what I've heard it's way better than Ashford U. (These are things I've heard, I'm just telling you these things). Check out the campus at www.park.edu
@Joe May 27, 2009 at 12:43 a.m.
This is the best question here: Why is Joe so awesome? Everybody worships him around here. Is he the One?
Concerned June 1, 2009 at 8:02 p.m.
My experience at Ashford has been mixed, on the one hand I have had instructors who are great with emails and returning them and on the other hand, I have absolutely needed a question or two answered and a couple of the instructors have ignored email after email, I now have a policy of sending email after email, possibly 10 in a row saying the same thing...basically having to force a response... Which a student shouldn't have to do. Nevertheless, some instructors were excellent and some I wouldn't have teach my pet snail. School isn't a real priority as some can see with the grading, returning email and so-on, these are people who could care less about you succeeding.
Currently Enrolled June 8, 2009 at 12:59 a.m.
Everything seems fine. I'm in the MBA program and it is difficult. The instructors have been good so far. It seems like most of the comments on here are from undergrads complaining about how it's so much cheaper at a community college, etc. The MBA program is about 18K compared to 50 to 100K at traditional universities. You get out of this what you put into it and I can sell myself to any potential employers so I'm not worried about reputation of the school. It doesn't matter that much. Heck, I hire people all the time and the most important thing to me is how well they will fit into the position I have available and how well they know their stuff.
Carolina Girl June 8, 2009 at 1:59 a.m.
I was reading the reviews on this board and I was amazed. Although I have not attended Ashford, I would attend. It sounds like the people who have negative comments have not been to another online school. Ashford is the only online school I've found that is accredited. Please do your homework. It has a brick and mortar school regional accreditation. I don't understand these people who say they can't use their degree. I think many of these are adults who are attending college for the first time.
Brad June 9, 2009 at 6:06 p.m.
I had just left a review and one thing I forgot to mention is that the Professors have been great. I have not had any problems with them returning my emails (all were replied to within 24 hours). I did have a couple times where I disagreed with a grade I received in an online quiz. I explained my position via email and why I thought my answer was correct. They corrected my grade and both professors did it because I explained my point of view and used a references from the text to show it. If you act like an adult in your discussions with them you will be treated like one.
as others have said, this is a school that is great for those who are mature, independent and motivated. If you need someone to hold your hand through life, this is probably NOT the program for you.
Good luck in furthering you education and do the research needed before investing in ANY program, whether on campus or online!
Brad June 9, 2009 at 6:16 p.m.
Oh, and my major is in PR and Marketing and I am in my seventh class now. And yes, I would recommend this school to anyone who is motivated to finish their degree and learn. I can't stress that enough. There will be times that you will be tired from work and not want to do the required reading, discussion boards or reports/papers.
So ask yourself before enrolling here or anywhere: Just WHY do I want to get a degree? If it is just to have a diploma, think twice about it. But if you want to learn how to better yourself in your chosen field and have a better understanding of your chosen career path then you will probably be successful.
Again, good luck!
Arthur Wood June 12, 2009 at 3:26 p.m.
Ashford University has ZERO regard for its students once you get passed your core classes for your degree. This could be the reason why they have you take your core classes up front.
For my wife and I, they have totally added, deleted or changed classes without regard to either one of our schedules or books ordered. Ashford FAILS to call you or email you to coordinate their changes.
STAY AWAY From Ashford. WE are NOT the only ones to have these issues.
THere online academic advisors are ROGUE.
@ Carolina Girl (the beautiful) June 17, 2009 at 7:11 p.m.
My dear Carolina girl;
You wrote the following:
"It sounds like the people who have negative comments have not been to another online school. Ashford is the only online school I've found that is accredited."
Here is the problem with what you said. To begin with, there are almost 50 people that are students (either former or present) that have taken the time to write a review (not just make a comment; most of those people do not have any real experience with the Ashford)that have had absolutely terrible experiences at Ashford. That is about 31% (hence the 6.68 overall average). True, the majority have had either neutral or good experiences. However, for me 31% disgruntled, truly upset and angry current and former students is way too high for me to even consider this university. Secondly, Ashford is not the only accredited online university. In fact, I believe there are numerous other better choices than Ashford. I am not saying Ashford is bad. I am only saying if you really do your homework on this, there are better choices for sure.
Brett Michaelis June 18, 2009 at 6:23 p.m.
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I attended a local community college in California for 3 years and had problems with my cars and paying for gas insurance etc. Ashford University has made this so much easier for me. The classes are all the same boring classes you will find at any University; in fact they use the same textbooks. I have just completed almost all of my general education requirements and now I am moving towards my Degree course work. The price is not great like a local community college, but the price is good for University rates.
I seem to be doing well; I made the deans again this year. Take a Look
www dot ashford dot edu/deanslist/
RDT June 19, 2009 at 1:17 a.m.
well, to each his own!
i'm in my 5th class @ Ashford and I enjoy it. a lot of the people here need to take responsibility for themselves and realize that everybody pays a price for education, but what price is too great when you get to earn more money. It's an investment in yourself people!!! Also, i never had any issues with any of my professors or advisors, not to mention I have met some really good people in my classes. School is what you make it. If AU isn't for you, then hopefully you'll continue your education somewhere, but as I stated before, I thoroughly enjoy it. Should that happen to change, I will definitely come back and let you know. Got questions?? email me @ thickadanmost@yahoo.com
J June 24, 2009 at 8:29 p.m.
I know nothing about Ashford except for the fact that I have an interview there tomorrow to be an enrollment advisor. What I do know is that some people on here are talking about the cost of the schooling.
I just graduated from a California State college with a B/S in business administration. I was in school for 5 years (pretty standard now a days for a state college). Cost me a pretty penny. From what I have read Ashford gets you out in 12-24 months. Thats 3 years less than me. Once your out you can look for a full time, decent paying job. I worked a restaurant job for 5 years struggling to pay rent.
You need to look at cost of school in many ways. Not just tuition fees. Theres SO much more than that.
Melissa June 24, 2009 at 11:59 p.m.
I am an advisor here and I am writing offline...I hear complaints from students on here, but if I had a dime for every flaky student that came through these doors, i wouldnt have to work for Ashford. The people on here complaining about Financial Aid are the same students who make excuses for every single thing. They waste countless hours of their advisors time with flaking on their financial aid appointments to get their documents in...We enroll students up to 2 weeks from their start date of class....We are required to get all financial aid documents in within 3 days because processing takes time...These students who swear they are "motivated" to get their classes started are the same ones who once we schedule their FA appt at a time that THEY choose, they go MIA and we are practically chasing them down to get their documents in time for their start date....Financial Aid is not something to lag on people!!! It is your financing...and if your broke self cant afford to pay CASH for your tuition, you are at the mercy of the federal govt and their deadlines...You dont make the deadlines, you dont go to school!!! Dont go blaming Ashford for your financial aid difficulties, that is all you!!! I think its lame how much Ashford advisors have to hold the hands of grown adults...And dont apply for school if you are not ready...DUH!! You are wasting our time and yours...
Angel June 25, 2009 at 8:05 a.m.
Initially my experience with Ashford University was great. It's been 9 years since I graduated with my bachelor's degree and now that I am a stay at home mom I decided to entertain going to school online. It seems more convenient, so why not? I had a great enrollment counselor name Zia. She was great at following up, keeping her appointments, and returning my calls. I was ready to go, I made the decision to enroll, but something said do more research.
I enrolled into the Masters Program for Early Childhood Education. I called the NYS Department of Education and I was told due to the interstate reciprocity that I had to call the state education department within the state the school was in and they had to be a teaching approved program. Come to find out they are not approved. When I contacted the enrollment counselor she seemed surprised and stated she would look into it further.
Her supervisor called me and tried to assure me that they never had this problem with any students from New York. So I called the state education department of Iowa, which they're school is based out of an was given the same answer, "they are not a teaching approved program". Furthermore, I was told you would receive your diploma from a school in Arizona, called Rio Salado. Finally I called back my enrollment counselor and told her, that I was withdrawing from the program. Her attitude towards me changed and she said she told me that getting certified was my responsibility and that since I was not happy with her findings that she would release me from the program. I said "your findings", I'm the one that researched this further to come to find out the NYS will not accept your program. At the end of all of this back and forth I was exhausted and discouraged and explained that to her. Ashford should have all the state requirement laws listed instead of the potential student going on a wild goose chase. She said there's 50 states how can we keep track of all the requirements. Well that goes without saying that they don't have it together and I'm glad I was able to find this out ahead of time before it was too late and I wasted more of my time and money.
Larry June 30, 2009 at 3:09 a.m.
After attending a traditional college and university, I was very
skeptical about attempting an online college. I have a co-worker who
completed Ashford and spoke very highly of it. I was out of college for
18 years after completing an AAS in Criminal Justice before I decided to
give Ashford a call.
After speaking with my academic advisor, I was convinced Ashford was
the way to go for me. The first 5 weeks was very disappointing as they
allowed 70 credits to transfer from my previous schooling. I was NOT
trained on the BB very well at all so my very first grade was an F. I
called my advisor and expressed how NOT happy I was with AU. He made
some calls and got back with me the next day. I was scheduled to take
the class again and given a full tutorial on the BB. From that point on,
I’ve not has any big issues with AU. My old financial advisor was rude
and acted as if I was getting on her nerves at times. She even told me
that I needed to repay AU for my first class out of pocket. I called my Academic
Advisor and explained everything that was said. Needless to say, I
don’t have that financial advisor anymore.
My classes have been WONDERFUL and I can say I have learned a lot from
the AU classes. I have 5 classes to complete until my graduation. I
have had issues with the BB in the past and I have never had any
problems with not getting credit for late work because of the BB. Hell,
once the BB went down with 1 weeks left in the class. The Prof. ended
the class and gave every student the grade they earned as of 4 weeks
into the class. That was way cool because I made a HIGH B and I
didn’t have to write my final 10 page paper!!
Ashford University is not perfect and it has its problems but overall
it’s a good learning experience and expensive as hell too. I would
recommend it to others.
Fran July 2, 2009 at 2:45 a.m.
I am filing a complaint regarding Pell and Loan fraud. I enjoyed Ashford until I deceided to stop. YES the enrollment advisors are great-it's their job to "sell u the car" The instructors are great, it's their job to make sure u get the "warranty" but stop or change schools....
If you have experienced financial wrong doing please contact me at
This is for financial wrong only sorry complaints regarding customer service are simply a waste.
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melissa July 3, 2009 at 11:09 p.m.
There are basically TWO different styles of enrollment advisors, there are the ones who are basically telemarketers, who use pushy sales tactics to make their numbers, and actual Student Services counselors who just happen to be working with the extension program for the University...
I started working here at Ashford, and I know how much time I spend on my students. All day long I am getting requests from students who were enrolled at UOP and have been lied to, misadvised, and ripped off when in good faith they are just looking for a good place to take care of them.Online education can scare the crap out of anyone, it scared me.You dont know who the person is that you are talking to, you cant see them to gauge their honesty,all contact with the school is by email or phone, it is scary...
But most of the advisors I work with spend so much time making sure that we are selecting the right students to work with.I hand pick all of my students.If Ashford were "for profit", i would let EVERYBODY through the virtual doors. My job does not end by getting a student enrolled in class.I have to build an honest relationship with each student until they graduate.The application is just the first step,from there I need to make constant follow up appointments to get their financial aid done and surprisingly, half of students flake on their financial aid appointments that THEY set and then I am left calling everyday to get it completed by the deadlines.From there I hand hold the student with ordering their books, i walk them through the complete process.Unfortunately again, even after i have explained in the very first call that books ARE not included in tuition or financial aid, some students will tell me at the last minute that they do not have money to pay for books...So i give them options to rent their books for $15-20 from other sites on their own and they NEVER do it. Another thing that i do before the students class is get them into the actual online demo classroom for their course where i spend about 15-20 minutes showing them how to post assignments and offering them tips on things that will help them. I encourage them to log into the demo account during the week prior to class to get familiar with it, thankfully, most all of them actually do this.So once class starts I call them to see if they were able to log in, i check their class schedule, I follow up on transcript orders to schools and credit evaluations, I send weekly emails and track attendance reports...for every student, and i have about 50 students at a time.I invest most of my time with students in their first 5 week course.So, NO, I am not a salesman, I am a counselor who works very hard for my students.The advisors can only do as much as the students will allow, we cant do everything for the students.I think some students want us to take the class for them or something, or they want it all to be FREE.sorry...wrong school for that kind of person
Not foolish at all July 9, 2009 at 12:37 a.m.
After reading all the good and the bad on the web about Ashford University, I have to side with those who have had a bad experience. Despite reading the posts about the bad experiences, I enrolled anyhow. I have attended both traditional and online schools in the past and have received my degree within them, but never have I experienced an enrollment tatic like the one I experienced at Ashford University. Nor have I attended any school without knowing the awarded financial aid amount prior to the start of class or made payment arrangements. Because of the uncertainties, I officially withdrew on the first day of class. That's when the truth and lies began. My enrollment advisor must work on commission, because when I informed him I wanted to withdraw, that's when he put on his high pressured super cape and tried to persuade me to log into class. I feel if I had logged in, I would have been taken on a long ride to recovery. After standing firm on my discision to withdraw, the advisor's cape then turned him into the grim reaper. He became very unprofessional and stated he doesn't know how to withdraw a student. Per Ashford University's Catalog, the steps of withdrawing are listed. I'm not foolish nor uneducated by a long shot. Ashford University may very well be a good school or maybe not. But it's the financial aid procedure of uncertainties and the high pressure enrollment advisors that ward off any perspective students. "Enroll at your own risk" should be cited on their home page.
-r0b- July 12, 2009 at 2:30 a.m.
Everyone, you can find good and bad opinions about anything these days, colleges, cars, restaraunts. The BLUF (bottom line up front) is that you can't please everyone. What some see as being jerked around, others take for granted at just how the process works.
I've attended several brick n' mortars and a couple online programs and found Ashford on par with all of them in terms of academics and bureacracy. It doesn't excell, but then its not a "degree mill" either.
Wait and form your opinions based on your experiences, not anonymous posters who may or may not have an underlying agenda.
Nicole July 13, 2009 at 5:21 p.m.
The Academic Advisors at Ashford University are terrible! I have been attending Ashford for the past year, and have had problems with the Advisors from day 1. My first advisor was continually very rude and acted as though I was bothering him whenever I needed anything. When I asked him about career fields with my Academic major, and what kinds for things I could do with my specific degree, he said very rudely “I don’t know! It’s listed on the website somewhere!” I informed him that I had been advised to discuss this with him, per my enrollment advisor; he blew me off and never helped me with my questions. Following that, I would have to make multiple phone calls and send multiple emails to receive any kind of response from him, if I was lucky to even get a response. One instance in particular, I went 3 months without a reply. I had wanted to drop a certain class; I emailed him requesting to drop…no reply. I left multiple messages on his voicemail, (since he never answered his phone) over wanting to drop, still no reply. 3 weeks later, he finally got back to me. At Ashford, you can drop a class during the 1st week at no charge. The 2nd week, you pay half the cost. The 3rd week, you must pay full price. It is unfair that because of his unprofessionalism, I had to pay full price for the class, when I had certainly given ample notice that I wanted to drop. He was very rude and told me that he has hundreds of students to deal with and doesn’t have time to reply to email. First of all, the number of students he is dealing with is none of my concern. If he is overloaded, he needs to take that up with his boss, not me or any other student for that matter. His attitude was extremely unnecessary and quite unprofessional. Needless to say, I requested a new advisor. The questions I had, were certainly not out of line and most were simple, everyday questions, but questions nonetheless that I needed a response. Upon receiving a new advisor, I was hopeful for a much more professional work relationship, however this was unfortunately not the case. While the new advisor is much friendlier than the last, she is also very difficult to work with. She is extremely difficult to get in contact with. Typically, it takes weeks (yes, WEEKS) for her to return my calls or emails. There are some things that need a response to sooner than that. I am to the point where I just give up with the advisors at Ashford University. No student should be left to feel like they are “bothering” the advisors. An academic advisor should be helpful throughout the enrollment of a student, not rude, unprofessional and virtually unavailable. I am in the process of furthering my education elsewhere. School is hard enough when working full time; I need advisors who are on my side and willing to help me along the way…Apparently this cannot be obtained from Ashford University.
Strongly consider going somewhere else! July 13, 2009 at 9:33 p.m.
I have been a student with Ashford since fall '08. I have found many downfalls with the University but 2 things that I would like to share to prospective students, which you are NOT informed of upon enrollment or inquiry:
1-Class goes ALL YEAR LONG! 365 days a year. You get ZERO breaks. You have to do homework EVERY DAY until you graduate. No holiday breaks, no spring break, NOTHING. I have no problem putting in my time and doing the work but it would be helpful to have even a short break a few times a year to let the brain take a rest, otherwise it gets to be too overwhelming. If you are scheduled for a 4 year degree, that is a LONG time. Bad choice on the University's part in my opinion. I would imagine students become burned out easily.
2- Classes run for only 5 weeks each. Students are required to write (at least) an 8 page research paper every 5 weeks. You have to cram all this information learned in the short time each class lasts, then find the time to compose a long research paper which is pretty time consuming!
Good luck to anyone who is thinking about Ashford. It would be an okay program for anyone who doesn't have a job or a life, and has all the time in the world to do what is necessary to pass.
PS: I agree, the advisors are pretty bad
Don't attend this school July 14, 2009 at 11:41 p.m.
Ashford University is a horrible academic institution. It's really no different than the University of Phoenix. All of the enrollment advisors are almost like telemarketers, and there is extreme pressure on them to sell, sell, sell.
I feel that I have a lot of room to speak on this issue, as I graduated from there with my BA in Business Administration. I reluctantly rolled into the Masters program, but they continued to screw up my finances, scheduled me for a course I already took, and worst of all they messed up my BA diploma. Today I withdrew in the middle of my MA program and plan on continuing my MA elsewhere. HORRIBLE.
Lastly, Ashford feels like a fly-by-night school. There is virtually no work to be done in the classes and obtaining straight A's there is no challenge. I told my academic advisor that they were like a borderline degree mill, and that CHEA may very well see this and pull their accreditation in the future. She agreed that the courses were, in fact, super easy, but that it's not about the grade I get, or other students who don't even try and pass, but about how much information I take away from my textbook. WOW!!!
Lindsey July 15, 2009 at 8:02 p.m.
Until now, I have loved my Ashford Experience and would have recommended it whole heartedly to everyone.
I am very upset that after contacting the financial aid department numerous times and explaining that I was concerned about my MUCH NEEDED stipend check ($225 books for my most recent class!) arriving on time because of my address change that it was never even issued!
I was told repeatedly that I should wait and it had to be issued within 14 days of the dispursement date of June 30th. Today is July 15, so when I called again, I was they would continue to check on it for me. I am scheduled to start my LAST class in two weeks and what a joke to not be able to afford the book becuase Ashford can't seem to issue me the funds necessary.
I'm very disappointed that after 16 months of dedication, they have let me down this close to the end. I see comments like the ones on this board and wish I hadn't gone so far into debt for an education that might not have much value.
Better Choices Out There! July 16, 2009 at 6:06 p.m.
There are approximately 53 people that are students (either former or present) that have taken the time to write a review (not just make a comment; most of those people do not have any real experience with the Ashford)that have had absolutely terrible experiences at Ashford. That is about 32.5% (hence the 6.59 overall average). True, the majority have had either neutral or good experiences. However, for me 32.5% disgruntled, truly upset and angry current and former students is way too high for me to even consider this university. Secondly, Ashford is not the only accredited online university. In fact, I believe there are numerous other better choices than Ashford. I am not saying Ashford is bad. I am only saying if you really do your homework on this, there are better choices for sure.
Alisha July 22, 2009 at 4:55 p.m.
RE: Ashford University. These people are driving me insane. They call my house day after day, several times a day asking for my son, who does not live with me. I want them to stop calling because I work nights and they always wake me up. I tell them my son does not live here and has his own phone number, but they say they can't stop calling because he has to come to the phone and tell them to stop... BUT he doesn't live here! My number is unlisted and I have no idea how they got it. I asked to speak to a supervisor and they refused to let me talk to anyone. I am about to make a couple of calls, because now I feel they are harrassing me. It's very simple to stop, make a note next to the number not to call, BUT they REFUSE.
Robyn July 22, 2009 at 6:05 p.m.
I have had an excellent experience here. I also had 40 credits transfer from previous schooling so 1/3 of it is already done. The enrollment was quick and easy and all of my classes so far are great. I also love the fact that the classes are only 5 weeks each it is great for me, I lose interest quickly so by the time I am bored with a class it is over. I think it is all in how you learn. I think the 5 weeks is plenty of time for each class. When I was attending college at Mount Aloysius the summer courses were only about 5-6 weeks long, so its like I am taking summer courses all year long.
It may seem like a lot to do all year round but really as long as you make a schedule and stick to it you can do it. I take it one week at a time.
As for price I paid 300-400 per credit there as well so the price is no big deal compared to what I paid before. The actual price I would have paid there was about 5,000 more a year than I am here. For the most part so far my grants have covered the cost and I still took Stafford Loans just because I know they send me the left over money and right now I can really use it, but I am also saving some of it so that when it is time to pay it back I have some set back that I didn't use to pay back. I don't know what else to comment on but I am having a good experience here so far.
Justin July 28, 2009 at 4:43 p.m.
Online learning Does pay....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTuNbVLOtHY
This is not Ashford Univ. but Phoenix. PPL and businesses are recognizing and welcoming online degrees more than ever.
When graduates of online universities speak publicly about how their degree is not welcomed by employers....Then and only then should anyone be concerned.
When people who drop out and don't make it come here whining and complaining about Ashford....You should take it with a grain of salt!
Former Telemarketer July 29, 2009 at 4:42 p.m.
Don't buy the bull the current AU advisors are trying to sell you! They pretty much work on commission, so OF COURSE they want to convince people to enroll. While they will make you feel that they are selective, really they accept anyone that can come up with the money to pay for their first class--whether it's with cash, TA, or FA--if youv'e got money they'll find a way to take it. Don't let them use a free book stipend or waived application fee to reel you in--they offer these promotions every month. Don't let them tell you you MUST enroll now--they start new classes every couple weeks. Yes Ashford is attached to a real college, but if you want to see what the online school is about you should visit their "offices." It's a telemarketing center people. Most of the advisors aren't even college educated. They are required to work through their list of leads, which is why people that don't enroll immediately will continue to get calls two or three times a day.
How do I know this? Because I used to work there. I genuinely cared about my students, but it wasn't enough. We had several meetings a day where our supervisors bullied and threatened us to try to improve our numbers. I was once pushed to enroll a disabled woman who was hard to contact because her phone and electricity kept getting cut off. I spoke to several former students who were furious because other colleges wouldn't transfer their AU credits. If you want a degree to make yourself feel smart, then you should have no trouble passing AU's generic classes. If on the other hand you want a relevant degree from a respected school don't waste your money here.
Silvia July 30, 2009 at 9:27 p.m.
I love this school. I have been a student for over a year I have had NO problems. I have seen many names in classes and I can always pick out the ones who won't make it. Part of being an online student means that I have to dedicate time and work, after all the harder I work the better education I receive. There are classmates of mine who make the minimal effort with a million excuses why they didn't do the homework, usually they fail. I have made some great friends and I also know many students who are gradutating. I have also been in class with students who have tried other line classes and they were glad to switch to Ashford.
Justin July 31, 2009 at 9:56 a.m.
Former Telemarketer, What a bunch of crap about the AU Credits not transferring. My wife took a few classes at AU and had not problem having them transfer to PSU (portland State Univ.) Other colleges have to accept AU credits since they are reginally accredited. So please take that whiny crappy and dishonest junk out of here please.
Better Choices Out There!! August 1, 2009 at 6:47 p.m.
There are approximately 54 people that are students (either former or present) that have taken the time to write a review (not just make a comment; most of those people do not have any real experience with the Ashford)that have had absolutely terrible experiences at Ashford. That is about 32.5% (hence the 6.59 overall average). True, the majority have had either neutral or good experiences. However, for me 32.5% disgruntled, truly upset and angry current and former students is way too high for me to even consider this university. Secondly, Ashford is not the only accredited online university. In fact, I believe there are numerous other better choices than Ashford. I am not saying Ashford is bad. I am only saying if you really do your homework on this, there are better choices for sure.
Education is not a Joke August 2, 2009 at 7:33 p.m.
Ashford is a great school. I graduated form community college in 1 and 1/2 semesters Magna Cum Laude (Teachers taught like they we were at Harvard)and went on to the University of Southern Mississippi where my teachers were unprofessional, in grad school, never graded my papers on time,one lost my final research paper and didn't tell me until the summer, one gave me a D when I proved her answers wrong and just aced the class in CC with an instructor that edited the text, kept me enrolled in a class over a year without my knowledge, sent my stipend back then reissued it, didn't properly disenroll me as requested, said I stopped going to school when I didn't, didn't administratively withdraw me as policy stated, messed up my credit score by sending my information to the wrong addresses (5), showed my SSN on all mailings, told me I couldn't go back to school without going to them, and made me loose all (4) of my scholarships. Ashford has been a dream. I haven't had a book since my third class which makes me have to study harder and read more. Psychology is so much thought based that much of it I remember from elementary school, middle school, high school, and former colleges, some is common sense, and other information can be found in the texts I did buy. For those who depend on the refunds, all schools work this way and just like income tax returns, you work to pay bills, this just proves you do not know how to budget and should plan around disbursement dates. Custom books from Ashford sometimes have companion sites or you can preview text form various Pearson sites. I'm used to MLA but Ashford uses APA which I have to get used to but like in traditional settings, all teachers may have amended instructions. They have their reasons. School is what you make of it. The Psychology program flows form one class to the next with the following lasses expounding on information presented in previous classes. you cannot go wrong.
Education is Not a Joke August 2, 2009 at 7:34 p.m.
Technology fees do apply, I've been looking for the perfect accelerated master's program, tuition is high along with applicable fees including the technology fee. I love reading my instructor comments and the tests are not a walk in the park even if you have the book. Some tests are longer than others. Just like high school students you should do your homework in future areas of studies or job requirements when you plan your program of study. Mississippi College is a private institution that offers an online Master's in Education. Eastern Michigan also has online program. State tests are required depending on your profession, hence GRE. My sister just graduate from Jackson State yesterday and is going on to grad school there and they also offer online courses. I graduate in December and can not be happier. I'm a little weary of the Capstone class but what ever extra research it takes to succeed, I'm ready. I have a 3.93 and I earned it. I don't like the fact that they don't offer organizations, or honor societies, or even give certificates for achievement, but there are many professional and student organizations I can join,including APA. Do your homework and please be realistic!
Education is Not a Joke August 2, 2009 at 7:35 p.m.
I mean for online students in the psychology program.
Former Telemarketer August 5, 2009 at 12:14 a.m.
Justin, my guess is your wife took a handful of transferable gen-ed courses. Classes like PSY 101 are pretty standard from one school to the next. Major-specific courses on the other hand are not. Before you call me dishonest, maybe you should do your homework (trying a spell-checker couldn't hurt either). I GUARANTEE you the first class Ashford has all of their first-time students take (EXP 105) will NOT transfer to any other school. They themselves will tell you that it doesn't count toward any of their majors. It's a great way for them to get something for nothing.
Education is Not a Joke August 6, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
Please forgive me for all the typos I used previously. I was in a hurry. In addition, it doesn't hurt to look up professional profiles or instructor profiles at other school to see where they received their degrees from. You will be surprised that many of them graduated form online schools.
Liz August 11, 2009 at 6:10 a.m.
Fran, the link you provided for researching Ashford's credentials is fictitious because it is referring to a London-based UDP that used Ashford's name to sale fake online degrees. The link you provided was www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/diploma_m...... This link is completely unreliable. Ashford is regionally accredited and their credits transfer seamlessly to other regionally accredited institutions. I am in my 18th course at Ashford and I am very pleased with the knowledge I have gained. I actually enjoy reading the 3-4 chapters assigned each week (assigned readings are usually anywhere from 80-140pgs per week). I am getting the most from this opportunity--you can get so much from this experience if you apply yourself. However, if you do not plan on completing the assigned readings, you will be one of the people complaining that Ashford isn't worth the money. Reading is the most important aspect of online learning. Anyone who reads and then engages in the relative weekly discussions will be pleased with the insight they gain from analyzing their colleagues' perspectives. The first few courses I took at Ashford were quite easy, the third class was a little harder, but by the fourth course, the depth of the program became increasingly complex and way more intense. Although the assessment tests are open-book, the answers are extremely hard to find within the weekly readings (so students should read the assigned chapters). There are long research papers (8-16pgs.) due at the end of each course. This paper serves as your final and counts from anywhere from 25-30% of your overall grade. Though I spend anywhere from 10-14 hours reading per week, I truly believe Ashford is a great. I am excited that they allow online students to walk across the stage with their class at graduation. I love this school. God bless you all = )
Marley August 14, 2009 at 12:19 a.m.
****BEWARE OF THIS SCHOOL ASHFORD IS A SCAM******* Read this whole post along with the others on this site, Ashford advisors respond to reviews and write them themselves, they pretend to be a students who a pleased with the school. They are all sale reps, low budget ones at that! They will call and bug you all day and night to pressure you into enrolling especially if you get Financial aid, as that is guaranteed money to them(they work on commission). Do not sign over your right for them to control your financial aid or Grants, they will take it all and make up fees as why it is applied to the classes. Don't be fooled they all tell you they are here for you and that Ashford is a "hinden Gem" there is a reason for that, they are not accredited. Do not enroll unless you are sure this Scam is for you as they will also tell you that it is free to apply but they will charge your Credit Card $55. This school is all about profit, if they were such a "great School" why do you need such sales pitches and pressure tactics to get your students to enroll?
P.S As I am writing this post another "Advisor" A.K.A Sales Rep called me to see if there is anything he can do to change my mind about enrolling. That was number 11 in 3days! Such a Scam.
Liz August 14, 2009 at 7:16 a.m.
Marley, are you Joe...and is Joe actually your real name? Do you have a life outside of pestering people who are looking for a quality educational experience? I have been at Ashford for a little over 2 years and my time with this school has been great. I think it is a little crazy how you hang out here and pester students who are looking for the truth. What could cause someone to invest so much personal time into destroying the reputation of an awesome institution? One thing I have learned is that you are truly determined to taint Ashford's reputation. I have several colleagues who completed their degrees with Ashford (I was referred to this school) and they are very pleased with the knowledge they've attained (and so am I). I do not believe that your experience is as serious as you are trying to make it. What is sad is that you are deterring many students who could have received a quality online education. I do hope that eventually you will get over it and move on.
Regards,
~Liz
Liz August 14, 2009 at 7:22 a.m.
And by the way Joe/Marley, Ashford University is a regionally accredited institution and their credits transfer to other regionally accredited institutions. They are recognized by the Higher Learning Commission which is a member of the North Central Association of colleges and schools. Why do you hang out here all day and lie to people? Where is your civility, where is your integrity?
Lily August 15, 2009 at 6:42 a.m.
I dislike how every instructor's definition of a rough draft varies!! But I do like the way the lesson plans are spelled out from week 1- week 5
Donna August 15, 2009 at 7:25 a.m.
I love Ashford. I am just about finish with my bachelors and I will begin pursuing my masters in the spring of 2010. This is an awesome school. I would highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for a quality education.
MsWilliams August 17, 2009 at 3:46 p.m.
Has anyone graduated from the Health Care Administration program? Did your degree work for you or did you already have a job in the field and just advanced?
SC August 18, 2009 at 12:45 a.m.
I have spent all evening looking at these posts. I have been a Sociology major at Ashford for one year now with a 2 month break in there for an emergency. I can honestly say that this is one of the best experiences of my life. I am an older student (49), very motivated and self-directed. I do not need an advisor with me at all and can figure things out myself. This school is accredited, accepted by all other institutions as a regionally accredited school. They took all of my Associate's degree from my community college and I still take classes there to save money. These have transferred also. This school is not a walk in the park, and although I cannot answer for anyone having financial aid problems, I can attest to the actual schooling. I've had some great professors and some crappy ones, just like my community college. Nothing's perfect and you DO get what you put into it. These papers are difficult to do and the reading is arduous but it will be worth it. To the whiners, good luck with any school. Some of you don't sound like college material, no offense but not everyone is cut out for college. If you need breaks for spring etc. then you are just there for fun and that's not what Ashford is all about. You are there to learn and get a degree, not the typical college experience. I hate my academic advisor but I never have to deal with him. I do love my enrollment advisor, Jose, and he is who I deal with most. He has always been there for me with a laugh, good advice and has gotten results for me. My graduation date is May 2010 and I can't wait.
Jessica August 18, 2009 at 6:02 a.m.
Ashford University is fully accredited, meaning their degrees are just as valuable as any state university. Ashford is a real school based in Iowa so it's not a scam. It's wonderful that they offer an online campus. I am a first year student at Ashford and I absolutely love it! It is so convenient and I am getting a quality education at the same time. Financial aid is ALWAYS the student's responsibility. I completed my FAFSA before even applying to any colleges. The financial aid counselors are only there to assist you but they are not the ones actually granting the financial aid. And FYI: there is no such thing as a "non profit" university. I work for the University of California (State colleges...UCLA, UCSD, Berkeley, etc.) and we are hiking up the tuition like crazy due to California's horrible economical crisis. Just because a college is owned by the state, it doesn't make it non profit. If you are a busy adult and serious about finishing your degree, Ashford is a wonderful choice for you. The reason why I chose Ashford and not others like University of Phoenix is because the tuition at Ashford is a lot more affordable. But hey, college is expensive everywhere now days.
Jessica August 18, 2009 at 6:15 a.m.
Oh, and FYI, I am NOT an Ashford advisor posing to be a student (LOL). I am a real student living in California, working for UCOP (University of California Office of the President) as an administrative assistant and I am also a mother of two boys. I live in a very diverse part of California (Alameda County), where online education is accepted, appreciated and looked upon as a real education. When I told my boss I was taking classes at Ashford...his reply was "that's awesome! isn't that the small university where Obama gave a speech?" I am a proud student at Ashford University! Just remember, all schools have their pros and cons. I have taken classes at San Jose State University, University of San Francisco, Skyline College, and Laney College....all public, local colleges, and I have more cons than pros with all these schools. So far, Ashford is the only school where I have more pros over cons. Visit their website and if you feel that they can offer you something that meets your needs and expectations, I'd say, give 'em a call and get some info. Do research on other universities as well so you can compare...that's what I did.
Possible student August 21, 2009 at 7:23 p.m.
I have sat here at my computer reading endless postings waiting on my adviser to call. Thanks to all that have posted. I now know what questions to ask as this is my first on line school experience, maybe.
This is to Joe. Maybe you should consider time management in reference to the job applications you should review better compared to posting here. I can't imagine that you have many to review with the economy as it is. Any way keep up the crusade.
Heather August 28, 2009 at 8:19 a.m.
Yes Joe, you should finally move on with your life...you have already destroyed enough lives (by lying and fictitiously slandering a great institution, further causing prospective students to possibly choose a college that does not offer such a quality education). To all prospective students: Most (if not all) of the slanderous comments on this cite are all from one angry, disgruntled individual (Joe) who had a problem with his financial aid and then tried to destroy Ashford's reputation. What happened to Joe was his own fault, not Ashfords. Grow up Joe, life moves on....so should you. Ashford is a prestigious university that offers an excellent education. I could not be happier with the quality of this schools curriculum. If anyone would like to check out their accreditation,simply pull up the Board of Education's website. CHEA.ORG
Once you get to this website, click on Databases and Directories. Then click on Find accredited institutions and programs. Then click "I agree" on the USER AGREEMENT FOR PUBLICATIONS OF THE COUNCIL FOR HIGHER EDUCATION ACCREDITATION. Then type in Ashford University as the university name you would like to look up. Type in the state that Ashford is located in "Iowa" then type in the country "U.S."
When you do this, you will receive a message that confirms Ashford's accreditation. It reads:
Ashford University
400 N. Bluff Blvd., P.O.Box 2967
Clinton, IA 52733-2967
United States
Phone: (563) 242-4023x1200
Fax: (563) 242-6893
Web: www.ashford.edu
Institutional Accreditation by the North Central Association of Colleges and Schools (NCA-HLC), The Higher Learning Commission.
Heather August 28, 2009 at 8:41 a.m.
--Education is not a joke, based on your performance in the classes that you take during your program, Ashford does offer induction into the Alpha Sigma Lambda National Honor Society. If you have a 3.93 GPA, you should have received an invitation this past spring. To qualify you must complete at least 24 credits at Ashford and have received at least 12 Liberal Arts course credits.
Heather August 28, 2009 at 8:48 a.m.
Jessica--your boss called Ashford a "small" university that President Obama made a policy speech at, but Ashford is a huge campus. One of its main buildings is 12 stories tall. You should type in Ashford University on Yahoo and click the images tab. Ashford is everything but small = ) Take care my fellow online classmate.
Crystal August 29, 2009 at 10:11 p.m.
I agree with Heather. Ashford is great, I think that people should stop saying that the school is bad just because they had a bad run in with one or two individuals. I have been a student at Ashford for about a year now and I love it. The work can be over whelming at times but I learn a lot. I also have had my incidents with the occasional idiot or a$$hole but I am not going to downgrade an entire school because of two individuals that don’t care, every school has and work places has those types, you know the one that just come to work for a paycheck but can’t stand the job. For students that had an bad experience with someone-you are allowed to change advisors, put in a complaint on an instructor, appeal grades, COMMON PEOPLE USE YOUR HEAD. My husband is also taking online classes and his work does not compare to the work I get. His school accepts anything, also a coworker of mine is takes online classes, and she too has poor work, when I say poor it is as if an elementary student could do what they do. I guess if you want to be a baby, have things spoon-feed to you and cry about every little thing that does not go your way then Ashford is not for you, it is for grownups not babies. I am so happy to be a part of such an institute especially with the latest acknowledgements from you know who…LOL
In Business August 31, 2009 at 12:44 p.m.
Is there anyone that has gone through the Business Admin program with Ashford. Is there anything you can tell me about the class and your experience? ALL imput would help!
In Business August 31, 2009 at 12:50 p.m.
@ Joe, if you're still around. I've been in the sales industry for about 10 years now. I have a GREAT background in the sales/marketing industry, however, it's getting increasingly more difficult to find a decent job. I have the experience for a lot of great opportunities, but even with my experience, without any degree a lot of companies won't even consider me. I'm considering attending Ashford's online Business Admin program to give myself a better chance. I've read all of your pots and I appreciate your honesty, so I wanted to get an answer from someone like you. With my experience, if my resume came accross your desk and I have a BA in Business Admin from Ashford online, would you give me any of your time? Thanks.
Casey September 9, 2009 at 9:28 p.m.
I was doing some research on online universities for a couple of days and have found that Ashford scored the highest (from a student feedback perspective). Yesterday I completed a "More Information" form on Ashford's website and within an hour I received both a phone call and follow up e-mail from the enrollment advisor. I did not answer the phone or respond to the e-mail. 2 hours later I get another phone call. We spoke about my interest and he answered some of my process questions. He didn't seem very professional on the phone and at times I felt like I was being "Closed" or going through an "Assumed Close". I'm familiar with these tactics because I have some professional background in this. Towards the end of the call I told him to just e-mail me the information and links to the website and I would get to it later. The very next morning I get an e-mail with a subject line of "Have you changed your mind?". At this point it became clear to me that these guys make a commission for enrolling students. After some additional digging, I discovered a recent press release (9/2/2009)to this effect on their holding company's website (Bridgepoint Education --> Investor Relations --> New Releases).
The school is currently under investigation by the OIG for its compensation policies and practices relating to its enrollment advisors among a host of other financial compliance issues.
So based on my recent experience and this press release, I will be holding off on enrolling until the outcome of the investigation/audit and I would recommend that anyone that reads this take caution as well.
Anonymous Student at AU September 10, 2009 at 4:56 a.m.
About the OIG and Ashford, on my speculation and what I have experience with some advisors at Ashford, you can clearly see that some are there for the money, it’s sad but there is always a bad grape or two in the bunch. From my own personal experience with Ashford, I can say there was an occasion, when after filling out my FAFSA, I got a call from one of their finical aid advisors saying that I need to sign this paper with my checking and routing number of my bank to allow them to charge my account when they feel necessary. I have attended a different online school before and I have never heard such a thing, I made some phone calls, and was told to see their request in the school policy. When I asked to see this “school policy in writing”, she never contacted me back with any information and I was never asked about signing anything again. Last year I got deployed overseas and some of my income was not taxed on my W2, if you are in war some of your income is not taxable, so my income looked small, that’s why I think they wanted my bank info. In the end, I did not give them squat and they never bothered me about it. So I can see why the OIG is taking some small steps to see what exactly is going on, so it is possible that a few might have been trying to get rich fast or don’t know their jobs or making up their own rules and regulations. Hope this helped. Yes.. I am still a proud student at Ashford and who really is that stupid to just sign something without knowing exactly what you’re getting into. I am guessing many new students don’t know their rights and just have to learn one way or the other.
Molly September 10, 2009 at 7:29 p.m.
I've been going to Ashford for four weeks now. I love it. It's really easy for me. my one concern would be...would someone look at my resume and see that I went to Ashord and be happy with that? It seems to be not so favored. I hope im not wasting my time and money!
Jeanapie September 15, 2009 at 2:39 p.m.
I don't see why everyone has a problem with Joe. I have spent a lot of time, effort and money on my existing credits, and if I signed up with Ashford would be tranferring 94 from other schools. It scares me to think that others are transferring up to 75 credits of "Life Experience". I want to have the experience and learning, yes, but I also want a legitimate degree for advancement in my current position and for my resume. I will be spending a lot more time, effort and money to complete with Ashford and want to know how the degree is perceived in the real world. I appreciate Joe's comments - they will certainly be helpful in making my decision to commit to Ashford or not. Joe, since I can't be a traditional student, any comments on the online program at Columbia College, Missouri?
len September 16, 2009 at 7:40 p.m.
I just want too know how I can contact the President of Ashford University.
iKaNdy September 17, 2009 at 8:12 p.m.
Is their anyone in the MBA Program with a specialization in Project Management?
Marcie September 22, 2009 at 5:02 a.m.
Ashford is GREAT. I will be completing my Bachelor's in about four months. I have gone through a myriad of health problems over the past year, moved to a rural area over an hour from the nearest University offering Bachelor's degrees, and dealt with my father's ailing health. I had my first child while attending, and have been able to work steadily toward my degree the entire time. I had one bad Financial Advisor, but I requested a someone new, and have not had a complaint since. Instructors, as in any University, vary from class to class. I have found, as I progress into my Senior level courses, the further you go, the better the Instructor. If ever you are displeased with an Advisor, call the general customer service, allow them to direct you to whoever you need to speak with to request a new advisor.
As far as price is concerned, I am unaware of a college offering Bachelor's degrees with prices significantly lower. The nearest state school, in my Arkansas area, is only about $20 cheaper per hour.
Great School!!
Zaynah September 22, 2009 at 3:33 p.m.
I enrolled in Ashford Univesity about a month ago, and so far I am enjoying the experience. Since I have started my Bachelor's a bit late, I have decided to finish my Bachelor's with AU through the accelerated course and than obtain my Master's with another University by the traditional method.
I recommand Ashford to anyone!
CindySue September 28, 2009 at 6:04 p.m.
I have had a descent experience with Ashford, I am going for my Bachelors in Social Science, and I have run into some negative experiences, but nothing serious, issues such as Instructors not answering emails and such, but after having an opportunity to complete a survey to rate my satisfaction I was able to voice this. I started out at Devry Online and that school was a nightmare for me and Ashford has been a better experience. Online classes are going to have their challenges but I weighed the pro's and con's and an online degree is so much easier for me indeed. I have just finished my second class and so far so good. A's in both. Try to stay positive and patient, unless it is an issue that needs direct attention. I appreciate all the comments here, and wanted to say that not everyone has terrible experiences, just read all the info and check into all possibities so that you make the right decision for you. And ask questions that you have after reading the board.
Liz October 4, 2009 at 9:22 a.m.
Jeanapie--Joe had a problem with financial aide and then tried to destroy Ashford's reputation. He is not a reliable source.
Taresa October 5, 2009 at 7 a.m.
Ashford University is in no way a money laundering school. The school first of all is regionally accredited. I know this for a fact because the military allows you to use the GI Bill for it. The government will not pay for a school that is not accredited.
Also Ashford gives books for free to military students.
If this school was in it for the money, they would at least make you pay for your books like University of Maryland does. This school is nothing but wonderful at least for those working full time and in the military.
anonymous instructor October 13, 2009 at 5:47 a.m.
From the standpoint of an instructor, I have really mixed feelings about online education in general. I feel that the tangible experience of sitting in a classroom, sharing that space, is totally irreplacable. I can't replicate it no matter how hard I try in an online setting, because I can't orchestrate the energy of the "room" and have people in real conversations about what they study.
With specific reference to Ashford, I do feel the curriculum is really outdated. Some of the things I am teaching are methods and that were abandoned years ago. I find that some students are really enthusiastic, and they make the experience of teaching worth it. Other students make me wonder how they were accepted to the university, because they have trouble with the simplest of writing and reading assignments. I am also dismayed at the frequency of plagiarism--I believe this is partially due to the outmoded assignments that are easy to plagiarize off the internet.
Overall at Ashford I have felt very well-treated as an instructor and I have had very good experiences with the people who are "above" me. I simply think that the real question here for a prospective student is, do you want to rush through school just to get a piece of paper that says you are a graduate? This could be a good reason for choosing online education, and if you are, Ashford seems to be about as good as the other online choices. If you are more interested in the real experience of a life change and a learning experience, I think a community college is a better setting.
Returning to Ashford October 16, 2009 at 2:41 a.m.
I started out at Ashford, left, and I am not returning to Ashford. I found the classes a littler easier than I would like but I think that is because I have more experience than most do at my age. For example I have spent 5 years in the military and I now own 3 businesses in Michigan. After attending different schools and working for University of Phoenix and others, I have nothing to bad to say about Ashford. They actually tend to be better about their policy than many schools. University of Phoenix is horrible to their students and staff.
I was an enrollment counselor for them, so I know this for a fact. I returned to Ashford because of the customer service, they are easy to work with and understandable. I think a lot of the "being cheated" and stuff is because people do not really understand how education works, especially FA. The government is quick to pull FA for a school if they aren't doing it right, so they can't launder money or whatever non-sense people said. I have never been asked to provide financial info for them to deduct money from. It was probably for direct deposit of refund checks????
I do know this though, I will not get my masters from Ashford. Most schools really don't care about where your BA came from, they care about the GPA and standardized test scores, i.e. GMAT or LSAT. I want my masters to be from a traditional format, but that is my learning style. I think that the people with bad experience is because they didn't do there due diligence or had FA issues from other schools, like dropping in the middle of the term and not paying back their grants and loans for that period. Most problems start with the student and not with the school. Research is key, educating yourself about your education is paramount, maybe people forget this fact.
So is Iowa State Fake Too? October 16, 2009 at 2:49 a.m.
Just thought I would show this link from Indians University's website. If Ashford is a fake school that only cares about money, then why have a campus? why have sports? why do anything that truly benefits students? Furthermore, who cares if they make money? Education is a business, even non-profit or public schools need to make money? Do people actually think schools don't need to make money?
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Ann October 16, 2009 at 4:57 p.m.
I am sceptical now about applying...
Trisha October 24, 2009 at 12:57 a.m.
Aside from the occasional mean instructor, Ashford is a great school. Some instructors are impatient and take their job way too seriously. If they feel pestered by you emailing them, they will just stop responding altogether. This can be rather frustrating when I have an important question concerning the assignments. I have had several great professors, but the bad ones are always there to cast a shadow over the good ones. Overall, it has been a good experience. I just think their instructors need to be more interactive.
Alfi October 29, 2009 at 1:46 p.m.
OK...I'm gonna say this from the start for all you skeps out there...This is not Yale or UCLA. You want to have that, I suggest you try getting into those schools. This is a 100% degree from a scholl that has a full campus, which you can go to by the way. I now because I asked if I were to move to Iowa, would I be able to take onsite classes, and the answer was yes. Here are some problems that I seem to read about some people and what they run into.
1. Financial Aid. People, Financial aid is Financial Aid. They cant do everything for you. If you have problems filling out your form, then maybe school is not for you, becuase that thing was as easy as pie...no joke! Let's also add to that the fact that not everyone gets financial Aid. JUST LIKE IN ANY OTHER SCHOOL!
2. Teachers. There is nothing wronge with the teachers. I am in my 9th class right now, and I must say that there have been good ones and there have been "ok" ones. I went to a very high-end school before I made the mistake of dropping out. I had a Chem teacher that used to give me C's on my labs not because they were incorrect, as a matter of fact, they were 100% correct, and all the work was done, but he gave me C's because, and I quote! "I just dont like your hand writing!" and there is nothing you can do about teachers like that. They are EVERYWHERE!
3. Degree Mill. Not even close! I have to stay up late to finish 8-10 page papers once every 5 weeks. I have to take tests, and I have to submit home work every week! I get graded on them, and while I have gotten A's on most, I have been awarded lower grades for work that I rushed! truth be told, they grade fair. You do your work well, and bring it in on time, and you are fine. You start looking for easy ways out, and you will get what you deserve. The work is easy, but then again anything is easy once you put enough effort into it!
So far everything has been smooth. And let me tell everyone this..I dont work for them, I dont know anyone there, I'm just your typical joe smith from New Jersey that is getting his degree online. If you have any questions about my experiance, email me at adamalfi@gmail.com...
Ane October 30, 2009 at 11:23 p.m.
I am transfering from Ashford U to Salve Regina University because I want to eventually get my Ph.D. and I worry that my 16/18 months at Ashford will be a waste of time & money if not accepted by other schools.
My question is.. Will I have trouble transferring from Ashford? I have already been accepted to Salve Regina (ranked # 30 in the U.S.) Ashford isn't even on the list of all US colleges - I thought because they had a brick & mortar campus they should have SOME sort of ranking.. but anyway is Ashford going to give me a hard time when I seperate?
When anyone transferred FROM Ashford were there any issues? Any advice?
Thanks!
Tammy Serrin November 2, 2009 at 8:52 p.m.
TO ANYONE THAT NEEDS FIN AID TO CONTINUE/START COLLEGE - DO NOT GO TO ASHFORD UNIVERSITY!!!!!!
FIN AID WORKS COMPLETELY SEPARATELY FROM ENROLLMENT COUNSELORS and they never take they time in BEING HONEST or telling you the exact amount you will be getting and the dates your excess funds will be released! It is a joke how they screw with YOUR MONEY!
I had been looking into finishing my degree online for sometime, checking into accreditation, fin aid, books, staff, program and courses. Ashford made it so easy to get signed up and get started, BUT THEY FAILED in giving me HONEST information about everything from how the classes are organized, fees (books and otherwise) to how much fin aid was available.
I am a FULL-Time single mother that also works full time and was in the process of moving while Ashford said that I could do their program no problem. I qualified for all of the available fin aid, so I would do and be fine... right!? WRONG!!! Because I had to re-arrange my work hours to fit in getting homework done on time, I was going to be making less money, but I had to be sure school was covered and that there was a little more money coming back to me from loans in order to pay for living expenses for myself and son - as well as to cover BOOKS. I made Ashford more than aware that I needed to know exact money/costs and dates of when I would be receiving my excess funds. IT WAS NOT UNTIL AFTER THEY SIGNED ME UP when they corrected themselves in stating that fin aid is divided into two checks; 30% first (after 6 weeks enrollment), then 70% another 6 weeks (or so later). THAT MEANS THAT THE MONEY SITS IN THEIR POCKETS (more than likely collecting interest - on MY MONEY), WHEN I NEED IT, and there is nothing I can do to get it - EVEN WHEN THEY MESS UP!!!! As many times as I called in, you would think they'd get it correct, and actually care that when you mess with money and time - you are messing with someones LIFE! The first fin aid check that came in, I was charged 3 TIMES for 1 class and this messed up my excess funds fin aid check and I ALMOST LOST my home because I was depending on fin aid to come through at the time and in the amount I WAS TOLD IT WOULD!
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Tammy Serrin November 2, 2009 at 8:58 p.m.
TO ANYONE THAT NEEDS FIN AID TO CONTINUE/START COLLEGE - DO NOT GO TO ASHFORD UNIVERSITY!!!!!!
FIN AID WORKS COMPLETELY SEPARATELY FROM ENROLLMENT COUNSELORS and they never take they time in BEING HONEST or telling you the exact amount you will be getting and the dates your excess funds will be released! It is a joke how they screw with YOUR MONEY!
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NOT TO MENTION, upon looking into Ashford, I was told that books for my classes would be an average of $50, only after I signed up did I find out the vin #s of the books finding that they are on average $150 or MORE!!! And because they are specific to Ashford and generally new, I can't find them anywhere else on the web (like they also stated that I would be able to do to find them cheaper).
While I can say that I have had a few very helpful and informative teachers, there is not as much interaction or current and relative information in their classes as there should be in the exponential times we are living in! AND WHAT YOU PAY ASHFORD to go to school, there should be much, much more offered and included!! THIS COLLEGE IS NOT WORTH THE MONEY!!! I've had better experiences through community college online, and they not only offered the same Blackboard system, but they were more involved, kept the material updated and gave times where we would talk (the class and teacher), real time.
Ashford should implement newer technology for what they charge!!! And to think that they charge an additional "technology fee" WHAT A JOKE!! They should be thinking forward; allowing for instant messages, podcasts from the teachers, maybe utilize free software like SKYPE for further interaction, pictures, business networking, and ABSOLUTELY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR LIBRARY!!! Working in technology it makes me very frustrated to find that the mass majority of what they offer is OUTDATED!
TO RECAP; Ashford needs a complete internal restructure! They don't fix their mistakes, they screw students over for money, their fin aid dept. is a JOKE!, the college is NOT WORTH what they charge, they are DISHONEST and OUTDATED.
Holly November 3, 2009 at 1:37 a.m.
I am very upset with AU. I was put in the wrong class two times, which delayed my start date. And now I am being told that I will be dropped from my class because my finacial aid documents have not been faxed over when I faxed them over twice. I also called them twice to make sure that they got my fax, and they never called me back. Now I get an e-mail from my finacial aid advisor saying that I will be dropped from my class. I am so angry at this school right now. Do not go here, it is a waste of time that you will never get back!!
Nancy November 5, 2009 at 10:54 a.m.
Hello Tammy Serrin and Holly.....oops I mean Joe (LOL) It's always about the Financial Aid, my financial aid has been working fine with AU for about 3 years. Joe, get over it and move on.
Nancy November 5, 2009 at 11 a.m.
Ane--I talked to an enrollment counselor at Penn State to see if my Ashford credits would transfer. With the exception of two courses (out of 23) all of my credits will transfer seamlessly. You can even go to Penn State's website and see that Ashford is a university that they accept transfers from. The enrollment counselor has phoned and emailed 3 times since September to see when I am ready to transfer. I am happy with Ashford and I know that I am receiving a good education--I'm not going anywhere else.
Tammy S November 6, 2009 at 6:40 p.m.
Hello Nancy,
I am glad to hear you are one of the very few that has had no problems with Financial Aid or Financial Aid assistance with your Rep or Ashford itself. I recently just found out that I almost lost over $500 on the Pell Grant because I enrolled around March. Apparently Obama has issued for the grant to be a little more this year, but ASHFORD didn't want to take the time to make sure all of the students that enrolled during this time were re-packaged to have the additional funding our President has allowed for. UNLESS the student calls in and asks specifically about the extra funds, the student will NOT RECIEVE THE MONEY THEY ARE ENTITLED TO!! GRANTS being money we don't have to pay back are greatly needed in financially difficult times, such as now... and especially for the students that needed to apply for financial aid since the beginning!
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! And negligence on Ashford's part.
Nancy November 7, 2009 at 10:19 a.m.
Well Tammy, I would say I was more like one of the majority--not one of the minority who had problems with Ashford's Financial Aid. They do their part, it's not their fault if you do not turn in your paperwork on time or if you simply do not qualify. If you knew about Obama's repackaged additional funding, why didn't you ask about it before you sent in your paperwork?
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Stephanie January 23, 2007 at 3:30 p.m.
I have been in their BA program from over 8 months and I'm getting to my degree faster than I ever imagined. I enjoy the classes and tuition is a lot cheaper than uni's by me.